ᐅ Single-Family Home Floor Plan / Feedback, Criticism, and Suggestions
Created on: 10 Sep 2021 15:07
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Jens 198510 Sep 2021 15:07Dear housebuilding forum,
After much deliberation, we have decided to start our housebuilding project in the Hannover region. Following some disappointing discussions with various developers/general contractors, we tried to put our ideal plans on paper.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: approximately 1,800 m² (19,375 sq ft), not divisible or similar
Slope: no, flat
There is no formal development plan; after preliminary consultation with the permitting authority, §34 applies. Due to the surrounding buildings, approval for 2 full floors has been provisionally granted. The building must be aligned towards the street at the front.
Edge development: multi-family house
Number of parking spaces: 2 + trailer space
Number of floors: 2 full floors plus option to convert the attic later
Roof type: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation: facing north
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: simple, timeless, modern gable roof house
Basement, floors: no basement due to costs, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 2 children
Space requirement: 180 m² - 200 m² (1,937 - 2,153 sq ft)
Office: occasional home office + family use as guest room
Guest stays per year: at least 10 - 15 nights
Open or closed architecture: ?
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Kitchen type, island: prefer closed kitchen but with sliding door and small island
Number of dining seats: 6 seats
Fireplace: maybe, yes, as room divider to dining area
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage preferred over design; could also be prefabricated garage or carport; implementation with later savings possible
Utility garden, greenhouse: utility garden for the family, but care might be an issue later due to size
House design
Who planned it:
Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Large utility/technical room, direct access to garage, L-shape in living-dining area, 2 large children's rooms, straight staircase
What don’t you like? Why?
Much wasted movement space on ground floor, want to optimize total area to approx. 180 m² (1,937 sq ft)
Price estimate from developer: 470,000 EUR without garage, painting, and flooring
Personal price limit for house including fittings: about 500,000 EUR without garage including additional construction costs, land already owned
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you must give up on which details/extensions
Can you give up:
Smaller living-dining area, staircase form, reduce children's rooms to 16 m² (172 sq ft)
Cannot give up:
Large utility/technical room, large living and dining area including closed kitchen, partial brick cladding
Why is the design as it is now?
Arrangement and orientation based on existing driveway and features we don’t like in our current rented townhouse (city villa 155 m² (1,668 sq ft))
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
It meets our wishes on paper, but we lack experience whether it can be built economically; possibly better ideas for layout of utility room including wardrobe and garage
What is the key/basic question regarding the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can I optimize living space for best cost savings? Is the floor plan feasible within our budget? Proceed with architect or builder?
I hope this information is sufficient; feel free to ask for further details.
Thank you very much for your support and honest, constructive feedback. And don’t hesitate to be straightforward.
After much deliberation, we have decided to start our housebuilding project in the Hannover region. Following some disappointing discussions with various developers/general contractors, we tried to put our ideal plans on paper.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: approximately 1,800 m² (19,375 sq ft), not divisible or similar
Slope: no, flat
There is no formal development plan; after preliminary consultation with the permitting authority, §34 applies. Due to the surrounding buildings, approval for 2 full floors has been provisionally granted. The building must be aligned towards the street at the front.
Edge development: multi-family house
Number of parking spaces: 2 + trailer space
Number of floors: 2 full floors plus option to convert the attic later
Roof type: gable roof
Style: modern
Orientation: facing north
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: simple, timeless, modern gable roof house
Basement, floors: no basement due to costs, 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 2 children
Space requirement: 180 m² - 200 m² (1,937 - 2,153 sq ft)
Office: occasional home office + family use as guest room
Guest stays per year: at least 10 - 15 nights
Open or closed architecture: ?
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Kitchen type, island: prefer closed kitchen but with sliding door and small island
Number of dining seats: 6 seats
Fireplace: maybe, yes, as room divider to dining area
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage preferred over design; could also be prefabricated garage or carport; implementation with later savings possible
Utility garden, greenhouse: utility garden for the family, but care might be an issue later due to size
House design
Who planned it:
Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Large utility/technical room, direct access to garage, L-shape in living-dining area, 2 large children's rooms, straight staircase
What don’t you like? Why?
Much wasted movement space on ground floor, want to optimize total area to approx. 180 m² (1,937 sq ft)
Price estimate from developer: 470,000 EUR without garage, painting, and flooring
Personal price limit for house including fittings: about 500,000 EUR without garage including additional construction costs, land already owned
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you must give up on which details/extensions
Can you give up:
Smaller living-dining area, staircase form, reduce children's rooms to 16 m² (172 sq ft)
Cannot give up:
Large utility/technical room, large living and dining area including closed kitchen, partial brick cladding
Why is the design as it is now?
Arrangement and orientation based on existing driveway and features we don’t like in our current rented townhouse (city villa 155 m² (1,668 sq ft))
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
It meets our wishes on paper, but we lack experience whether it can be built economically; possibly better ideas for layout of utility room including wardrobe and garage
What is the key/basic question regarding the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can I optimize living space for best cost savings? Is the floor plan feasible within our budget? Proceed with architect or builder?
I hope this information is sufficient; feel free to ask for further details.
Thank you very much for your support and honest, constructive feedback. And don’t hesitate to be straightforward.
The site plan is still missing. Please upload it. I’m also missing the orientation… where is north, and which way do the window areas face?
But the drawings show about 225 m² (about 2,420 sq ft) with the option for an attic conversion?
What kind of rooms are planned for the attic?
No, I don’t think so.
Build smaller. Build more efficiently.
The question is: does the general contractor know about your design? Have all the details been included in their calculation, or have they only given you a rough estimate based on square meters?
470,000 EUR is a very competitive price even in Lower Saxony, especially considering partial brickwork and a convertible attic frame. Also, additional construction costs are not included.
Your budget will be exceeded with this plan, as you yourselves admit.
Regarding the floor plan: making everything a bit larger might eliminate bottlenecks, but you have to be able to afford that.
I don’t see a cloakroom.
To get to the living room or kitchen, you first have to go to the back of the house and then turn again. That’s not very practical.
You could discuss reducing the size by about 40 m² (430 sq ft) based on your budget. Then, the bottlenecks will appear, which will limit the functionality of the house.
Jens 1985 schrieb:
Space requirement 180 m² - 200 m²
But the drawings show about 225 m² (about 2,420 sq ft) with the option for an attic conversion?
What kind of rooms are planned for the attic?
Jens 1985 schrieb:
Number of floors: 2 full floors plus option for later attic conversion
Jens 1985 schrieb:
Is it possible to align the floor plan with our budget limit?
No, I don’t think so.
Jens 1985 schrieb:
How can I optimize the living area to reduce costs as much as possible?
Build smaller. Build more efficiently.
Jens 1985 schrieb:
Price estimate according to the builder: 470,000 EUR without garage, painters, and floor coverings.
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: about 500,000 EUR without garage, including additional construction costs; land is already owned!
The question is: does the general contractor know about your design? Have all the details been included in their calculation, or have they only given you a rough estimate based on square meters?
470,000 EUR is a very competitive price even in Lower Saxony, especially considering partial brickwork and a convertible attic frame. Also, additional construction costs are not included.
Your budget will be exceeded with this plan, as you yourselves admit.
Regarding the floor plan: making everything a bit larger might eliminate bottlenecks, but you have to be able to afford that.
I don’t see a cloakroom.
To get to the living room or kitchen, you first have to go to the back of the house and then turn again. That’s not very practical.
You could discuss reducing the size by about 40 m² (430 sq ft) based on your budget. Then, the bottlenecks will appear, which will limit the functionality of the house.
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pagoni202010 Sep 2021 18:25As already mentioned, the budget won’t fit. Therefore, the project will need to be scaled down; however, you can’t just shrink everything a little—you basically have to start "fresh." But that’s not a problem, as it should develop calmly anyway.
Currently, I see a lot of hallway space and "useless areas between the kitchen and living room, an entrance hall without a coat closet, generous living areas, a relatively large bathroom on the upper floor, a very small master bedroom, and, on the other hand, huge children’s rooms and again large hallway space.
As I said, building larger makes space planning easier but also more expensive. Maybe you can take some ideas from this and redraw or design it differently—everything will work out... or tomorrow is Saturday, and Saturday is lottery day 😀
Currently, I see a lot of hallway space and "useless areas between the kitchen and living room, an entrance hall without a coat closet, generous living areas, a relatively large bathroom on the upper floor, a very small master bedroom, and, on the other hand, huge children’s rooms and again large hallway space.
As I said, building larger makes space planning easier but also more expensive. Maybe you can take some ideas from this and redraw or design it differently—everything will work out... or tomorrow is Saturday, and Saturday is lottery day 😀
Jens 1985 schrieb:
470,000 EUR without garage,Where in the plan is the boundary between the house and the garage defined in this context?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Jens 198510 Sep 2021 23:23First of all, thank you for the quick responses.
@pagoni 2020 The Saturday lottery was already planned in advance, the question to you all would be how to reduce the hallway area most effectively. Of course, we could start over from scratch, but we would prefer to adjust our existing floor plan based on some ideas.
@pagoni 2020 The Saturday lottery was already planned in advance, the question to you all would be how to reduce the hallway area most effectively. Of course, we could start over from scratch, but we would prefer to adjust our existing floor plan based on some ideas.
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Jens 198510 Sep 2021 23:44@ypg
Thank you for your detailed feedback.
I just quickly uploaded the site plan from my phone. I hope you can make out something. Here are my answers to your questions.
But the plans show a good 225sqm (2,422 sqft) with the option for attic conversion?
What kind of rooms are planned for the attic?
The 225 needs to be optimized! The background to our thinking is that we currently live in a single-family house with 150sqm (1,615 sqft), and it feels completely full. With things that I could never have imagined before we had children. The attic is also full, so regarding the attic conversion, I would first like to create a full staircase to the attic. I am considering self-employment and am thinking about creating a separate workspace here, independent of storage.
Build smaller. Build more efficiently.
Where or in which areas would you build more efficiently?
The question is: does the general contractor (GC) know about your construction system? Did they include all the details in their calculations, or did they just give you a rough estimate based on the square meters?
470,000 is a bargain price even in Lower Saxony, especially if partial brick cladding and a convertible roof structure have to be considered.
This statement is based on two specific conversations, since costs as described above are over our budget, I asked the GCs for suggestions on how we could get into a price range of 400,000 euros. However, the alternative proposals no longer correspond to our ideas.
To get into the living room or kitchen, you first have to walk to the back of the house and then turn again.
Would you recommend adding an extra door from the hallway?
I don’t see a cloakroom
The utility room that connects to the hallway is intended to be used as a cloakroom.
Thank you for your detailed feedback.
I just quickly uploaded the site plan from my phone. I hope you can make out something. Here are my answers to your questions.
But the plans show a good 225sqm (2,422 sqft) with the option for attic conversion?
What kind of rooms are planned for the attic?
The 225 needs to be optimized! The background to our thinking is that we currently live in a single-family house with 150sqm (1,615 sqft), and it feels completely full. With things that I could never have imagined before we had children. The attic is also full, so regarding the attic conversion, I would first like to create a full staircase to the attic. I am considering self-employment and am thinking about creating a separate workspace here, independent of storage.
Build smaller. Build more efficiently.
Where or in which areas would you build more efficiently?
The question is: does the general contractor (GC) know about your construction system? Did they include all the details in their calculations, or did they just give you a rough estimate based on the square meters?
470,000 is a bargain price even in Lower Saxony, especially if partial brick cladding and a convertible roof structure have to be considered.
This statement is based on two specific conversations, since costs as described above are over our budget, I asked the GCs for suggestions on how we could get into a price range of 400,000 euros. However, the alternative proposals no longer correspond to our ideas.
To get into the living room or kitchen, you first have to walk to the back of the house and then turn again.
Would you recommend adding an extra door from the hallway?
I don’t see a cloakroom
The utility room that connects to the hallway is intended to be used as a cloakroom.
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