ᐅ Single-Family Home Construction: Planning a Granny Flat / Accessory Dwelling Unit for Future Family Expansion?

Created on: 29 Aug 2021 16:35
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marvel-online
I have a general question in the hope that you either completely dismantle the idea or that it might be workable. It’s more of a rough idea than a concrete plan:

We (a couple planning to have children but currently without any) would like to build a single-family house on a relatively large plot of land (1000sqm (10,764 sq ft)). Since we plan to have two children in the future, we would like to design two children's bedrooms accordingly. A home office and possibly a guest room would also be nice to have. A friend who is an architect suggested incorporating a separate apartment within the single-family house.

So we came up with the idea to possibly plan the house with the master bedroom, bathroom, home office, and guest room on the first floor, and to place a separate apartment in the basement with two rooms, a small kitchen, and a bathroom, which could also be rented out. If there is a later need for two children's bedrooms, the separate apartment could be used as the home office and guest room, and the freed-up rooms on the first floor could be used as children’s bedrooms. In the more distant future, the separate apartment could potentially be used again as a separate living unit for teenage/adult children or as an accessible living space for aging occupants.

This way, there would be no unused rooms in the new build, no risk of the house being too small in the long term, and as a side benefit, there might be additional subsidies and, of course, rental income.

Completely crazy idea or possibly reasonable?
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Myrna_Loy
29 Aug 2021 23:20
HausTmMike schrieb:

I would move the granny flat to the attic. 2-3 rooms, hallway, kitchen, bathroom.
Consider having the luxury of a master suite with shower and walk-in closet on the ground floor.
You have a large plot. So you build about 150m2 (1,615 sq ft) on the ground floor and depending on the development plan and house design, 110-150m2 (1,184-1,615 sq ft) on the upper floor.

😀 😀 😀 yes, sure, 300 sqm (3,229 sq ft) of living space... why not! What was the budget again? Possibly for four people. Plus a 3-room apartment in the attic.
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HausTmMike
29 Aug 2021 23:31
Myrna_Loy schrieb:

😀 😀 😀 yeah right, 300 sqm (3,229 sq ft) of living space… why not! What was the budget again? For possibly four people. Plus a 3-room apartment in the attic.
Myrna_Loy schrieb:

😀 😀 😀 yeah right, 300 sqm (3,229 sq ft) of living space… why not! What was the budget again? For possibly four people. Plus a 3-room apartment in the attic.
500k probably just for the house alone. And depending on how much self-construction is possible, it might be tight on a sloped site.
A friend of mine raised her 4,500 sqm (48,438 sq ft) property by 1.5 m (5 ft), which required nearly 11,000 tons of fill sand.
Hence the question about the focus: economical or luxury?
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hampshire
30 Aug 2021 00:32
matte1987 schrieb:

Maybe @hampshire can comment on the upfront situation?
If I’m not mistaken, he implemented something like that, but with 2 separate apartments rather than a connected layout.

Our children were almost 18 and 20 years old when we moved in, and we are at a different stage of life with very different requirements. Financial support was not a factor in the concept.
I shared my thoughts on the original poster’s project in the floor plan thread.
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marvel-online
30 Aug 2021 20:00
ypg schrieb:

No.

A separate dwelling unit that is also meant to be subsidized requires an adequate bathroom, a kitchen, bedroom, living room, hallway, a storage room with a washing machine connection, a separate water meter, an outdoor seating area, an additional staircase, another entrance to the house, and a parking space. Plus a few nice extras to somewhat soften the downside of having the landlord living next door.
If the target tenants are a couple, then provide two parking spaces. If you live in the sticks, you won’t attract any students.

If the granny flat is also supposed to be accessible, plan for about 30% more floor area for the unit, because accessibility is expensive and takes up space. It also has to be wheelchair- and care-friendly.

What do you mean by “in the meantime”? Do you think you can just terminate the rental agreement if your family planning works out?

And then a basement apartment as well... nobody moves in there willingly, unless they want nothing to do with people, are crazy about daylight, and listen to strange music 😉
All in all, you want to move into this basement apartment yourself, which is apparently designed to accommodate only one tenant?!
I wonder where you plan to fit your home gym then 😳

Very detailed answer, thanks! All valid points that make the idea of a granny flat rather unlikely. The input really helped us.
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ypg
30 Aug 2021 21:18
marvel-online schrieb:

Very detailed answer, thank you! .., The input really helped us a lot.
You can like the post now 😉
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allstar83
30 Aug 2021 21:26
ypg schrieb:

What do you mean by in the meantime? Do you think you can just terminate the tenancy if your plans for having children work out?
Yes, that is possible with a self-contained apartment without giving a reason.