ᐅ Floor plan design, two full stories, approximately 130–140 square meters without a basement
Created on: 29 Jul 2021 16:45
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prm2021
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
prm2021 schrieb:
He didn’t enlarge the living room to 4 m (13 feet), Where should he take the space from? The 15 cm (6 inches) would then be taken from the children’s room again – and also from the hallway.
prm2021 schrieb:
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that my living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (13 feet) (at least 35 sqm (375 sq ft)). Of course: when planning a house, these are goals. Still, you don’t have to stick rigidly to numbers when suddenly changing from a three-bedroom house to a four-bedroom house. Compromises have to be made somewhere. And if you told the architect that the children’s rooms should be almost the same size… well, then being happy with 3.85 meters (12.6 feet) width is quite understandable. Some plan their living room with 3.5 meters (11.5 feet) width and don’t see any problems at all.
I would dare to say that the structural issue is not due to the 4 meters of the living room... Overall, in my layman’s opinion, there is only one load-bearing wall on the ground floor, namely the one south of the stairs. The 10 cm (4 inches) walls (what material is planned?) are probably not even capable of hiding the necessary beam or post inside.
We have the living area spanning 10.8 x 5.05 m (interior dimensions) supported freely without additional explicit beams...
I would estimate the drawn shower to be 80 x 80 cm (31 x 31 inches); you can turn around standing in there... If the soap falls, I’ll need help or have to open the door...
I haven’t read everything in detail, but is the “architect” a freelancer or just a draftsman for a homebuilder? And how much freedom do you have to make decisions? If you make them redraw the plans three more times, it probably won’t get better, just different—and judging by the current drafts, more interesting for onlookers 🙁
We have the living area spanning 10.8 x 5.05 m (interior dimensions) supported freely without additional explicit beams...
I would estimate the drawn shower to be 80 x 80 cm (31 x 31 inches); you can turn around standing in there... If the soap falls, I’ll need help or have to open the door...
I haven’t read everything in detail, but is the “architect” a freelancer or just a draftsman for a homebuilder? And how much freedom do you have to make decisions? If you make them redraw the plans three more times, it probably won’t get better, just different—and judging by the current drafts, more interesting for onlookers 🙁
11ant schrieb:
How does he even manage to include bugs?
Wouldn’t you prefer to just redraw the bugs out yourself?
I’m afraid there’s a load-bearing wall right there, so that won’t be possible at all.
What materials are being used for the masonry? I’m not familiar with wall thicknesses that are exactly ten centimeters (4 inches), 20 centimeters (8 inches), especially 40 centimeters (16 inches) as standard.
For heaven’s sake, remove the corner window next to the TV and make that window the same as on the upper floor. As it is now, it’s a disaster – the structural engineer will have some words for the draftsman.
I’m Prussian and Protestant – so it means something when my immediate reaction is “holy mother Mary!” and I feel like lighting a candle for you. As Samson from Sesame Street would say: “Uiuiuiuiuiuiui.” ;-) Thank you.
If I, as a Catholic, get you to say that, :p
Really good. 😎
I have to see what I do with this architect...
Elokine schrieb:
Hello everyone. I’m really not an expert in floor plans, but what immediately stands out to me is that the designer seems to have some issues with the doors. In the first draft for the ground floor, there are three different door sizes – or does it just look that way? The utility room (or is it an office?) has a very small door.Thanks for the feedback. It is the utility room (house without a basement).
Elokine schrieb:
Guest bathroom with a sliding door?No, there will probably be an entrance from the north, as shown on the floor plan with the north-facing entrance.
borxx schrieb:
I dare say the structural issues aren’t really about the 4 meters of the living room... overall, there is one load-bearing wall on the ground floor, at least in my amateur opinion, which is the one south of the stairs. The 10 cm (4 inch) walls (what material is planned?) probably aren’t even capable of hiding a suitable beam or stud.
Our living area is 10.8 x 5.05 meters (internal dimensions) with a clear span, without any additional explicit beams...
I would size the drawn shower at 80 x 80 cm (32 x 32 inches); you can turn around standing in it... if I drop the soap there, I’d need help or have to open the door...
I haven’t read everything thoroughly, but is the “architect” a freelance professional or just a draftsman working for a home builder, and what degree of freedom do you have in decision-making? If you have him draw it three more times, it probably won’t get better, just different—and, judging by the current designs, more interesting for onlookers 🙁 Thanks for the feedback. The drawn shower needs to be 90 x 90 cm (36 x 36 inches).
borxx schrieb:
I haven’t read everything thoroughly, but is the “architect” a freelance professional or just a draftsman working for a home builder, and what degree of freedom do you have in decision-making? If you have him draw it three more times, it probably won’t get better, just different—and, judging by the current designs, more interesting for onlookers Unfortunately, I think so too. But I’m an optimist 🙂
prm2021 schrieb:
I need to figure out what to do with this architect... Tar, feather, and chase him like a public nuisance through the marketplace... seriously though, can’t you just bypass this master of obliviousness and remove the major flaws from the design yourself?
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