ᐅ Floor plan design, two full stories, approximately 130–140 square meters without a basement
Created on: 29 Jul 2021 16:45
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prm2021
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
It may be possible that 3.85 also works, but the claim that 4.00 or even more is not structurally feasible is really nonsense. I achieved 4.29 without any lintel or similar support. And that from my general contractor, who usually had difficulty accommodating my requests.
Tolentino schrieb:
It may be that 3.85 meters (12.6 feet) could still work, but the claim that 4.00 meters (13.1 feet) or even more is structurally impossible is really nonsense. I managed to get 4.29 meters (14.1 feet) without a lintel or anything similar. And that was from my general contractor, who usually had difficulties with my requests.Thanks for your response. The latest floor plan version has two children's bedrooms of about 16 square meters (172 square feet) each. I wanted three similar children's bedrooms, so I suggested reducing the size of the two bedrooms on the south side. The architect said he would have to automatically reduce the living/dining room downstairs because of a load-bearing wall.
prm2021 schrieb:
The architect said that the living/dining room would have to be automatically reduced downward due to a load-bearing wall.I assume this means that a wall in the living room has to be moved because otherwise, a wall upstairs would not be properly supported above. One possible solution could be to build the relevant wall upstairs as a lightweight partition wall instead of a masonry wall.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Hello, the architect has sent a new version of the floor plan with many issues 🙁. He didn’t enlarge the living room to 4 m (13 feet), added a door to the walk-in closet, wrote down the wrong size for the guest toilet, etc.. 🤨
There are two versions for the ground floor: entrance from the west and entrance from the north.
We will reduce the size of the children’s rooms using a lightweight partition wall (KNAUFF) to enlarge the bathroom.
I will speak with him, and until then please help us finalize the floor plan. So, I wanted a minimalist two-line kitchen (with a peninsula) and a double-door refrigerator. Is that possible? Maybe a single door leading outside or a large window?
Thanks in advance for the suggestions.
There are two versions for the ground floor: entrance from the west and entrance from the north.
We will reduce the size of the children’s rooms using a lightweight partition wall (KNAUFF) to enlarge the bathroom.
I will speak with him, and until then please help us finalize the floor plan. So, I wanted a minimalist two-line kitchen (with a peninsula) and a double-door refrigerator. Is that possible? Maybe a single door leading outside or a large window?
Thanks in advance for the suggestions.
prm2021 schrieb:
The architect sent a new floor plan version with lots of errors.How does he even manage to include errors? Would you like to just redraw those errors yourself to fix them?
prm2021 schrieb:
We will reduce the size of the children's rooms using lightweight partition walls (KNAUF) to enlarge the bathroom.I’m afraid there’s a load-bearing wall there, so that won’t be possible. What materials are the walls built from? - Wall thicknesses of exactly ten centimeters (4 inches, 20, especially 40) I’m not familiar with as standard.
For heaven’s sake, remove the corner window next to the TV and replace that window with one like on the upper floor. As it is now, it’s a disaster and the structural engineer will really have some words for the drafter.
I’m Prussian and Protestant — so it means something when my immediate reaction is “Holy Mother Mary!” and I feel like lighting a candle for you. As Samson from Sesame Street would say, “Uiuiuiuiuiuiui” ;-)
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Hello everyone. I’m definitely not a floor plan expert, but what immediately stands out to me is that the designer seems to have some issues with the doors. In the first draft for the ground floor, there appear to be three different door sizes – or is it just an illusion? The utility room (or is it an office?) has a tiny door. The kitchen door is a bit larger. The living room door looks normal.
A guest bathroom with a sliding door? I would think twice about that. We recently had one in a hotel, and let me just say: you really need to know each other well for that to work.
In the second draft, the guest bathroom does have a regular door, but how is it supposed to open when you’re inside? So, some of the door swings are going in the wrong direction, and on the upper floor, the doors are positioned so close to the wall that it’s questionable whether a baseboard can even be installed there.
A guest bathroom with a sliding door? I would think twice about that. We recently had one in a hotel, and let me just say: you really need to know each other well for that to work.
In the second draft, the guest bathroom does have a regular door, but how is it supposed to open when you’re inside? So, some of the door swings are going in the wrong direction, and on the upper floor, the doors are positioned so close to the wall that it’s questionable whether a baseboard can even be installed there.
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