Hello,
we have already had several discussions with construction companies and have now arrived at a floor plan we are quite satisfied with. However, we are finding it difficult to choose the right builder and are not entirely sure if the floor plan is truly optimal. Also, we have not yet decided whether to build a prefabricated house or a solid (conventional) house.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 765 sqm (8,236 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 9.5 x 20 m (31 x 66 ft). The plot is 15.5 m (51 ft) wide and a setback of half the eave height (at least 3 m (10 ft)) must be maintained.
Boundary construction: possible for the garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories (or a high knee wall > 2 m (6.5 ft) to keep the eave height under 6 m (20 ft))
Roof type: no specification known
Architectural style: no specification known
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limits: eave height max. 6 m (20 ft) or accordingly higher setback distance
Other requirements: none
Builders’ Requirements
Architectural style: modern
Roof shape: gable or hip roof
Building type: urban villa
Basement: no
Number of floors: 2 full stories (or a high knee wall > 2 m (6.5 ft) to keep the eave height under 6 m (20 ft))
Number of occupants, age: two people (28), potentially two children in the future
Space requirement for ground floor and upper floor: approx. 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft) total
Office: two offices (both for home office use); one of them also as a guest room
Overnight guests per year: unclear
Open or closed architecture: neither – a compromise
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen: no, but with a sliding door that is mostly left open
Kitchen island: yes, at least a peninsula
Number of dining seats: 6 to 10
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: 5.1 sound system with TV, so space needed behind the sofa
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage 6 x 9 m (20 x 30 ft)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
All the required rooms were included; minimal circulation areas; no wasted space; utility room directly next to the bathroom on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
We don’t like the bathroom layout because there is little natural light in the room
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: about €450,000 - 500,000 (about $490,000 - 545,000) according to various offers
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €500,000 (about $545,000)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump + underfloor heating
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
-can you do without:
-cannot do without:
all rooms (especially the two offices) are important and must be retained
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
A mix of many examples from various magazines, own ideas, and drawings from different sales consultants/building advisors
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
- Do you see any fundamental issues with the floor plan? Do you have better ideas?
- Can the desired rooms be arranged more efficiently on less space?
- How do we find the right builder for our project? We have already had many discussions and received offers but are struggling to decide.
- Prefabricated house or solid house?
Thank you very much and best regards
Rapha811
we have already had several discussions with construction companies and have now arrived at a floor plan we are quite satisfied with. However, we are finding it difficult to choose the right builder and are not entirely sure if the floor plan is truly optimal. Also, we have not yet decided whether to build a prefabricated house or a solid (conventional) house.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 765 sqm (8,236 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 9.5 x 20 m (31 x 66 ft). The plot is 15.5 m (51 ft) wide and a setback of half the eave height (at least 3 m (10 ft)) must be maintained.
Boundary construction: possible for the garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories (or a high knee wall > 2 m (6.5 ft) to keep the eave height under 6 m (20 ft))
Roof type: no specification known
Architectural style: no specification known
Orientation: see site plan
Maximum heights / limits: eave height max. 6 m (20 ft) or accordingly higher setback distance
Other requirements: none
Builders’ Requirements
Architectural style: modern
Roof shape: gable or hip roof
Building type: urban villa
Basement: no
Number of floors: 2 full stories (or a high knee wall > 2 m (6.5 ft) to keep the eave height under 6 m (20 ft))
Number of occupants, age: two people (28), potentially two children in the future
Space requirement for ground floor and upper floor: approx. 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft) total
Office: two offices (both for home office use); one of them also as a guest room
Overnight guests per year: unclear
Open or closed architecture: neither – a compromise
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen: no, but with a sliding door that is mostly left open
Kitchen island: yes, at least a peninsula
Number of dining seats: 6 to 10
Fireplace: no
Music / stereo wall: 5.1 sound system with TV, so space needed behind the sofa
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage 6 x 9 m (20 x 30 ft)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
House Design
Who designed it: do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
All the required rooms were included; minimal circulation areas; no wasted space; utility room directly next to the bathroom on the upper floor
What do you not like? Why?
We don’t like the bathroom layout because there is little natural light in the room
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: about €450,000 - 500,000 (about $490,000 - 545,000) according to various offers
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €500,000 (about $545,000)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump + underfloor heating
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
-can you do without:
-cannot do without:
all rooms (especially the two offices) are important and must be retained
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
A mix of many examples from various magazines, own ideas, and drawings from different sales consultants/building advisors
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
- Do you see any fundamental issues with the floor plan? Do you have better ideas?
- Can the desired rooms be arranged more efficiently on less space?
- How do we find the right builder for our project? We have already had many discussions and received offers but are struggling to decide.
- Prefabricated house or solid house?
Thank you very much and best regards
Rapha811
We have placed the TV between the windows. In the evening there is no problem, and during the day, roller shutters would be used. The home theater speakers are positioned on the right and left with an 8m (26 ft) distance between them, and the surround speakers are installed at a height of 2.8m (9 ft), calibrated with the receiver. The speakers had to be replaced due to the room size. In the kitchen, I would place the cooktop on the right wall and leave the island free for preparation, serving, socializing, and as a central focal point.
Rapha811 schrieb:
How do you come to the conclusion that this is a 1.40-meter table? In the drawing, the table measures 1.80 x 1.10 meters (5.9 x 3.6 feet).Oops!! You're right. I miscounted one box on my phone. My bad!kbt09 schrieb:
Well, if the home theater is THAT important, then a nice sofa arrangement probably won’t work 😉. And speakers behind the sofa, which is set away from the window... how do you imagine that? On stands behind the sofa?Rapha811 schrieb:
The topic “home theater” is quite important to us,I also see there is still “need for clarification.” But whatever: the first draft will be revised, and this process continues until everything fits. As long as the problem isn’t optimized, the draft isn’t finalized!Further comments:
Ground floor
- Sliding door to the kitchen is impractical. Opening it with your elbow like that is not an option.
- The island with the wall panorama has bothered me since the first drafts: when cooking, you end up looking at the wall... or the TV? I don’t believe anyone from the family would sit there to keep the cook entertained 😉 A breakfast bar isn’t that comfortable.
- Regarding the sofa corner: please also check if the tiny table meets your expectations. Otherwise, the space between sofa and TV will be quite tight; behind the sofa is free space (great for crawling children, who will love it).
- Personally, the long hallway would bother me, but you have to live with it if you want a closed kitchen.
- The cloakroom would be too small for four people. A reasonable estimate is 60 cm (24 inches) width per person...
Upper floor
- Swap shower and bathtub, so that one has more privacy while bathing.
- Avoid placing the washbasin opposite the window, since that casts shadows and you’ll always need artificial light.
- Plan the bathtub with the right size and possibly a platform as well. Take pre-wall installations into account.
Laundry room is great. Possibly, built-in cupboards should be added to the home offices for storage, as the current storage options look a bit sparse.
11ant schrieb:
The design still looks to me like that of a 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) house. Exactly! To me, it doesn't seem spacious now either. It's just a lot of rooms...
Rapha811 schrieb:
I don’t quite understand in what way the design feels like that of a 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) house? Where exactly does it feel cramped or too small? For us, everything except the sofa area is thoughtfully planned, so currently we don’t see the need to consult an external architect. It feels like a 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) house because its proportions and layout correspond to one of that size. Of course, you could want a 150 sqm house a bit larger, but if you then simply scaled all widths by 1.125 to get, for example, 190 sqm (2,045 sq ft), and the result still included tight spots, that would just mean the approach was clumsy. If I were you, I would cautiously assume that I’m probably not the only reason why hiring an architect seems useful and helpful. You can keep ignoring the suggestion and will likely agree with me once you’re standing in the finished shell of the building.
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Nida35a schrieb:
Home theater speakers are placed on the right and left with an 8m (26 ft) distance and surround speakers at a height of 2.8m (9 ft), calibrated with the receiver.That is quite a unique setup, and the receiver’s electronics can’t work miracles.We basically chose the second option from #34, also to have a reasonably practical speaker arrangement. However, we didn’t mind not having a separate kitchen, so the open layout avoids any space constraints there. Additionally, from a technical perspective, positioning the sofa-TV axis parallel to the window is the only sensible choice, even though in my experience this is rarely seen.
K1300S schrieb:
We basically decided on the second option from #34, also because it allowed a more reasonable placement of the speakers. Our goal was to have a home theater, house-wide radio, and kitchen radio all at once, without room modes.
Our bookshelf speakers with a subwoofer couldn’t fill the open space with 5m (16 feet) ceiling height with sound.
So for the home theater, it’s not just the 3m (10 feet) distance to the TV that matters, but the entire room.
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