ᐅ Our floor plan of 120 sqm on a 469 sqm plot of land

Bauexperte schrieb:

You can safely disregard that. With 1.30 m (4 ft 3 in) plus the support of the roof rafters, you have enough headroom... even for the occasional sporty close encounter.

No, including the support of the roof rafters! But that’s not a problem: we got a showroom model of this bed shelf at IKEA, where you can pull out the shelves on the left and right (no longer available at IKEA since 2013), so we still have storage behind the headboard...

I also think the cost factor plays a big role in the planning. In addition, the client will definitely have certain wishes (which you know from your own experience) that we don’t know about.
But at the very least, the architect should point out some necessities that won’t be built in (such as storage space).

Since I learned that the plan calls for east to be downstairs (at least that’s how I understood TE), I would personally make some other changes anyway. Also, the hint that maybe only one child is planned (or am I mistaken?), could open up other options for the upper floor.

I see the bathroom topic as fairly relaxed here.

Our home builder also included the bathroom layout on the floor plan – we made some adjustments. In the end, however, he told us: “The exact arrangement of the bathroom fixtures will be discussed and finalized during the selection process as part of the bathroom planning. This is just a rough guideline for now.”

The example with the elevator doesn’t quite fit in relation to the hallway. You enter the elevator, stand during the ride, and then exit. The hallway, on the other hand, tends to have more movement and activity.

I have a question about the kitchen:
Have you planned for a range hood with enough power? I know that open and airy living spaces are often promoted. Personally, I don’t like the cooking smells lingering in the living area. With an open design, you will probably only get rid of those odors if you plan a range hood with strong extraction power.

Good evening,

f-pNo schrieb:

The example with the elevator doesn’t quite fit when it comes to the hallway. You step into the elevator, stand there during the ride, and then step out again. There’s usually more movement and activity in a hallway.

The hallway is 8.30 sqm (89.3 sq ft) – admittedly reduced to its function as just a hallway. But seriously – what kind of bustle actually happens in a hallway that leads to a bathroom and three bedrooms, and at the same time? There is more crowding happening in a temporary elevator ride than in a hallway used by people.

When – other than morning and evening – could bustle occur at all? And even then – speaking from my own experience living with multiple generations under one roof – it is rather rare or almost never that you get the feeling of congestion in what is basically a small passageway.

Perlenmann schrieb:

Hmm, who would want to live in an elevator? I don’t fully understand that.

My statement was not about living in an elevator, but about the proportionality of arguments regarding the size of the hallway.

I increasingly find it disproportionate that any room – except interestingly the main living area itself, where the exact opposite discussion takes place – is being styled to villa-like sizes.

Just my two cents…

Regards, Bauexperte

Hello Erfurter,

The house is heated with a gas condensing boiler, solar thermal system, and a water-bearing fireplace.

We are heating our house without a basement using the same technology and have designed the utility room to be 15m² (160 ft²) so that everything fits and there is still space to move around. The gas condensing boiler plus buffer tank (about 750L (200 gal) for us) including the piping will almost completely fill your technical room. Didn’t you check the dimensions of a possible heating system during planning?
Then there’s the electrical distribution – or have you planned that somewhere else? Also, are the washing machine and dryer supposed to go in the same room? I would always recommend including a sink in the utility room. Regarding the kitchen window facing the carport… we installed a window that fits exactly between the base cabinets and the wall cabinets.

Regards, Fragri

If a fireplace with water heating ever turns out to be cost-effective, it must be used regularly. For that, you need enough storage space for the firewood. As far as I know, the wood should be seasoned for at least 3 years. That amounts to quite a few cubic meters. If you want to prepare the wood yourself, you may also need suitable machinery, such as a circular saw or wood splitter. If you don’t want to rent that equipment all the time, you’ll need a place to store it. So, you should consider whether this is feasible on 469m² (5,045 square feet).

Bauexperte schrieb:

My statement was not about living in the elevator, but about the proportionality of the arguments related to the size of the hallway.

I increasingly find it disproportionate that every room – except, interestingly, the primary living space of people; where the exact opposite discussion takes place – is being styled to villa-like dimensions.

I never claimed it should be a hallway landscape! I’m not a fan of villas either; I myself have only 113m² (1,217 sq ft) of living space plus a basement. But in a hallway that is 1m (3.3 ft) wide, with a door probably only 87cm (34 inches) clear width... You end up awkwardly close to every visitor when you open the door for them.