ᐅ Walls with painter’s fleece / ceiling with lime paint?

Created on: 16 Aug 2021 13:43
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Malervliesa
Hello everyone,

I am moving into a newly built rental apartment at the end of the year and still need to wallpaper. Hiring someone is not an option. The plaster is Q2 level, so I would like to cover the walls with painter’s fleece and then paint them white (with emulsion paint). I have done this before and it shouldn’t be a problem.

One question I have now is what to do with the ceiling. Since I am not a professional, I would prefer not to wallpaper the ceiling with painter’s fleece. I have tried that in the past, and I didn’t like the result, plus it was quite a lot of work...

Therefore, I wanted to treat the ceiling with white lime paint. Since I have never worked with lime paint before, I have a few questions:
- A primer is not necessary when using lime paint, right?
- Do I need to pay attention to anything at the junction between wall and ceiling (i.e., fleece/emulsion paint -> lime paint)? Would you use acrylic everywhere here, or can it also look neat without it?
- As a non-professional, is there anything else I should consider?

I appreciate all tips and am also open to alternative ideas 🙂
Tolentino16 Aug 2021 23:21
Apart from a few imperfections, my Q2 is as smooth as a... shaved middle-aged man’s butt...
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pagoni2020
19 Aug 2021 09:54
We are currently considering the use of painter’s fleece. Some interior walls will be clad with drywall panels, as will the ceilings on the upper floor.
My idea was to prime the filled drywall surfaces and then apply a fine textured paint finish.
The main concern, of course, is the potential for cracks to develop later in the drywall ceilings or walls. Since we will likely be hiring this work out due to time constraints, it could become a significant cost factor, so this needs to be carefully considered.
What are the general experiences with applying paint directly onto filled drywall—without painter’s fleece—in terms of crack formation?
Nida35a19 Aug 2021 10:19
We have paint fleece and paint applied on solid walls and drywall ceilings.
There are no cracks on the surfaces,
BUT the joints in the corners partly need acrylic after 2 years.

Empty white wall and ceiling with a narrow diagonal separation line.
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ypg
19 Aug 2021 10:46
pagoni2020 schrieb:

What are the general experiences with applying paint on skim-coated drywall without painter’s fleece regarding crack formation?

Cracks tend to appear at the joints between the solid exterior wall and the drywall, as well as in the wall-to-ceiling transitions. It should be noted that cracking is not caused by the paint itself 😉 it is just more visible. However, cracks will eventually become visible even with painter’s fleece. I don’t find the cracks themselves to be a big issue. They can be touched up with acrylic sealant after about 5 years (usually when repainting anyway). What really bothered me at first were the almost faintly visible drywall panel edges under raking light (window light) and, occasionally, a skim-coated screw head here and there.
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netuser
19 Aug 2021 11:53
pagoni2020 schrieb:

We are currently also considering the use of painting fleece... What are the general experiences with painting over filled drywall without painting fleece in terms of crack formation?

Same situation here. After weighing the pros and cons, I have finally purchased enough painting fleece 🙂 Following various strong recommendations for its use, we decided to go with it and hope it will help prevent the usual dissatisfaction.

At the moment, I am sanding some walls and already a few weeks after filling, I can see fine cracks here and there. Over time, they might not decrease, but hopefully, with the painting fleece, they will not be visible...
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driver55
19 Aug 2021 12:22
It’s like with many things: if you don’t get it right the first time (or have it done properly), you end up doing it twice or more.

Our "timber frame cabin" was completely covered with drywall in 2009 (just a single 9.5 mm (3/8 inch) layer). Joint tape was applied to all wall and ceiling seams, and everything was smoothly jointed.

Then the homeowner got to work. On our wedding day, we painted the entire house (ground floor/upper floor) with primer together. 😀

We used a variety of wall and ceiling finishes. From classic woodchip wallpaper, to non-woven wallpaper, “design smooth plaster” (7 layers), cotton plaster (which the homeowner lightly applied themselves with a trowel…), to Decoperl (paint with polystyrene beads), everything is there. Cracks, whether in ceilings, walls, or at joints, have not appeared even after 12 years.