ᐅ Experiences with Floor Plan Design – Any Feedback?

Created on: 4 Jan 2020 10:48
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Pinkiponk
I kindly ask you to review the floor plan of our future house and thank you in advance for your time and attention. The floor plan has not yet been reviewed by an architect.

--> Despite many efforts, I was unable to make the drawings larger. They originate from Sweet Home, were converted into a PDF, and then into a JPEG. If there is a better way to do this, please let me know. Otherwise, I hope it won't be too much trouble for you to enlarge the floor plans on your computer. It is possible, but as mentioned, I could not upload them in a larger size on this site. :-(

Now, here are the answers to the questionnaire:

QUESTIONNAIRE

Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 567 sqm (almost rectangular, only slightly trapezoidal)
Slope: no (barely noticeable visually, maximum 1-2%)
Site coverage ratio: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Single-family house / semi-detached allowed
Building type: detached
Building envelope, building line and boundary: to be measured yet, but the chosen house fits within it, as does a garage/carport for two cars
Setbacks: allowed for garage etc., otherwise the usual three meters (about 10 feet) distance
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of stories: two full stories
Roof type: hipped roof
Architectural style: unknown
Orientation: not yet determined
Maximum heights / limits: “Difference between finished floor level of ground floor and ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)“; “Difference between finished floor level of ground floor and eaves height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Other specifications: So far, we have only interpreted the development plan as laypersons. After the architect’s consultation, I will provide further details. For now, due to discretion, we do not want to publish the development plan, site plan, cadastral excerpt, etc. online, since we are currently only focusing on the house floor plan, not on its location on the plot. We also need to wait for the surveyor’s results on this.

Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: unknown, hipped roof, single-family home for two adults
Basement, stories: no basement, two full stories
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults
Room requirements ground floor / upper floor:
GF – kitchen, guest bathroom with shower, living room, utility room for technical equipment and hobbies.
UF – master bathroom with sauna, bedroom, two “closet and storage rooms” (larger one also usable as guest room)
Office: family use or home office? Exclusively for the couple
Overnight guests per year: 10 nights
Open or closed architecture: ?
Conservative or modern design: ?
Open kitchen, kitchen island: closed kitchen
Number of dining seats: 2-4 in the kitchen, 6-8 in the living room
Fireplace: yes, in the living room
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: neither
Garage, carport: for two cars
Utility garden, greenhouse: neither, except for some tomatoes and possibly raspberries
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons for preferences or exclusions

House design
Planner:
- Do-it-yourself

What do you like most? Why?
Nothing particularly stands out; the floor plan is pragmatic and kept simple due to our financial situation. We emphasize brightness, openness, and transparency in every room, aiming for as many windows (or door windows) of the same shape and size as possible. Except for the main entrance side on the ground floor, all openings are floor-to-ceiling windows or patio doors, allowing direct outdoor access from every room. On the upper floor, the windows should be identically sized and arranged as symmetrically as possible. Due to budget constraints, practical reasons, and the extra cost and maintenance of window grilles (instead of mullions), we decided against using door windows upstairs.

What do you dislike? Why?
Everything is satisfactory and fits our budget. We would prefer more door windows.

Price estimate by architect/planner: fixed, already commissioned offer/order EUR 312,780.00 (house only, excluding garage/carport, landscaping, incidental construction costs, land, etc.)

Personal budget limit for the house including fittings: EUR 400,000.00
Preferred heating technology: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal system (according to legal requirements)

If you have to give up something, which details/extras
- Can give up: possibly a new kitchen
- Cannot give up: window muntins (grids)

Why is the design as it is now?
There has been no architect consultation yet. The floor plan is a mix of example floor plans from various prefab home providers and our own ideas and requirements. Two special features for a relatively small house are, in our view, the somewhat larger utility room (which should be nearly like a second kitchen for hobbies) and the sauna in the master bathroom, which required a larger bathroom than we would need without the sauna.

What do you consider particularly good or bad about it?
Good:
  • We live as a couple only, so each of us has one closet and “storage” room
  • The guest bathroom on the ground floor will also include a shower
  • We own few pieces of furniture and value pictures and plants more, which allows us to have many windows and glazed doors

Bad:
  • Relatively narrow hallways
  • What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
  • For now, our concern refers only to the house floor plan, not its placement on the plot, as we are still waiting for information from the surveyor and architect. We welcome suggestions for improvements, additions, and criticism. It is important to us that the house looks harmonious, balanced, and “pleasing” from the outside. Due to lack of expertise in architectural harmony or facade design, we initially focused only on symmetry in the exterior facade. We do not want a house that looks unstructured or chaotic from the outside. Nor do we want too many different window shapes and sizes. On the ground floor, every room should allow access to the garden.

Floor plan of a house with living room, kitchen, guest bath, utility room, and stairs to the upper floor.


Floor plan of a house with two bedrooms, bathroom, sauna, and stairs to the basement; north is up.
11ant18 Aug 2021 12:33
ypg schrieb:

- even though you plan to sell the house again soon -
Oh, where could I have missed that, and why? Surely not just because of the carports, especially since the area is supposed to be so nice?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Pinkiponk
18 Aug 2021 13:06
11ant schrieb:

Oh, where was I supposed to have missed that, and why?
That’s a somewhat simplified way of putting it and, I assume, due to the fact that I mentioned we are not necessarily building “forever” and, if we don’t like it, we can simply move or change again. Maybe in five years we’ll travel the world in a motorhome... or in 30 years we’ll take our last breath in the house... I don’t know. Our situation is different from people who plan with children and grandchildren in mind.

I seem to have given some forum members the impression that this would only be a temporary home, which, in principle, ultimately applies to every homebuilder.
11ant18 Aug 2021 13:17
Pinkiponk schrieb:

I seem to have given some forum members the impression that this would only be a temporary home, which basically applies to every homebuilder in the end.

However, most homebuilders don’t want to admit this. The typical German homeowner is a real property hoarder.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Acof1978
18 Aug 2021 13:17
Pinkiponk schrieb:

This is somewhat simplified and, I assume, reflects the fact that I mentioned we are not necessarily building "to last forever" and that if we’re not happy, we can simply move or relocate again. Maybe in five years we’ll be traveling the world in a motorhome ... or maybe in 30 years we’ll take our last breath in the house ... I don’t know. Our situation is different from that of people planning with children and grandchildren in mind.

I seem to have given some forum members the impression that this would only be a temporary home, which, in principle, applies to every homeowner in the end.

I hope that the motorhome will be self-built, including the planning thread in this forum 😎
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Pinkiponk
7 Sep 2021 11:15
In case anyone is interested: Tomorrow and the day after, our material selection appointment will take place, provided we test negative on the required COVID-19 rapid test. I’m really hoping for that, as we are both vaccinated and had about a 4.5-hour (4.5-hour) travel time.

If anyone has useful, general tips for the material selection process, please don’t hesitate to share them here. 🙂 Feel free to also share any mistakes you made, if you’re comfortable with that. Everything is welcome. Reminiscing is encouraged—other people’s memories can often be very helpful. 🙂
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hampshire
7 Sep 2021 11:47
Tip for selecting materials and finishes:
Develop your own taste beyond what your builder offers.
Don’t accept anything that you both don’t like.
Don’t be swayed by "That’s how it’s done nowadays" sayings. After all, it won’t be "people in general" living in your house later, but you two.
Pinkiponk schrieb:

Our situation is different from that of people planning with children and grandchildren.

We do have children, and should I become a grandfather, I have many pleasant scenarios in mind for that. However, I will not plan or interfere with my children’s lives. They are independent individuals who should and can shape their own future. It’s not at all clear what they want to do (and currently even whether they want to do anything 😉). Therefore, we will not orient our life path as a couple around the children—just like you, for whom this question doesn’t even arise.
From this perspective, despite being parents, we think quite similarly to you. The idea of moving entirely into a camper van disappeared once we had one. It’s really great as a change of scenery and also wonderful to be back home. The latter I would somehow miss. So a "both and" is our solution, not "either or." In the back of my mind, my wife and I always envision a French chateau with a vineyard. Nothing concrete, but my experience is that the things I have visualized tend to come true eventually, even though there are dry spells along the way.