Hello everyone,
I am moving into a newly built rental apartment at the end of the year and still need to wallpaper. Hiring someone is not an option. The plaster is Q2 level, so I would like to cover the walls with painter’s fleece and then paint them white (with emulsion paint). I have done this before and it shouldn’t be a problem.
One question I have now is what to do with the ceiling. Since I am not a professional, I would prefer not to wallpaper the ceiling with painter’s fleece. I have tried that in the past, and I didn’t like the result, plus it was quite a lot of work...
Therefore, I wanted to treat the ceiling with white lime paint. Since I have never worked with lime paint before, I have a few questions:
- A primer is not necessary when using lime paint, right?
- Do I need to pay attention to anything at the junction between wall and ceiling (i.e., fleece/emulsion paint -> lime paint)? Would you use acrylic everywhere here, or can it also look neat without it?
- As a non-professional, is there anything else I should consider?
I appreciate all tips and am also open to alternative ideas 🙂
I am moving into a newly built rental apartment at the end of the year and still need to wallpaper. Hiring someone is not an option. The plaster is Q2 level, so I would like to cover the walls with painter’s fleece and then paint them white (with emulsion paint). I have done this before and it shouldn’t be a problem.
One question I have now is what to do with the ceiling. Since I am not a professional, I would prefer not to wallpaper the ceiling with painter’s fleece. I have tried that in the past, and I didn’t like the result, plus it was quite a lot of work...
Therefore, I wanted to treat the ceiling with white lime paint. Since I have never worked with lime paint before, I have a few questions:
- A primer is not necessary when using lime paint, right?
- Do I need to pay attention to anything at the junction between wall and ceiling (i.e., fleece/emulsion paint -> lime paint)? Would you use acrylic everywhere here, or can it also look neat without it?
- As a non-professional, is there anything else I should consider?
I appreciate all tips and am also open to alternative ideas 🙂
Malervliesa schrieb:
Great, thanks for the picture! It looks good too 🙂 I think that's quite a thin painter’s fleece; I wanted to use a thicker one so the texture wouldn’t show through anymore...Yes, exactly, that is a striped fleece fiber wallpaper. The textured areas are thicker, so the unevenness of the plaster isn’t as visible through them. The smooth areas are thinner, so unevenness shows through in an unattractive way.
kati1337 schrieb:
Q2 is usually not very smooth in new construction.Unfortunately, this cannot be generalized because Q2 defines the process steps rather than the smoothness. Whether the result is good or less good depends on the applicator. Therefore, there are Q2 plasters that look like a cratered surface and others where even Q3/Q4 might be assumed.K1300S schrieb:
Unfortunately, this cannot be generalized, as Q2 does not define smoothness but the work steps involved. Objection! These are the quality levels, which naturally are achieved through multiple work steps and do correspond to the surface finish.
I do not doubt that this is the case in theory. In practice, however, no matter how you putty or sand, the result is either "very smooth" or "just acceptable." For example, we currently have Q3 finish without painter’s fleece, but when I compare that with just a Q2 finish in a new build, I actually think Q2 wins in terms of surface quality.
qzwo is, in painter’s jargon, prepared for textured wallpaper, so it’s still quite basic and rough. You can manage it with a thick fleece underlayer or by applying another layer of fine filler followed by sanding. If you want to paint qzwo directly, you have to use some tricks, for example, a filling paint containing sand particles. Sto Putzgrund is something like that.
K1300S schrieb:
I don’t doubt that this is the case in theory. In practice, however, no matter how much you fill and sand, the result can be either "very smooth" or just "barely acceptable." For example, we currently have a Q3 finish without painter’s fleece, but when I compare that to just a Q2 finish in new construction, I actually prefer the Q2 in terms of surface quality. I can confirm this for us: we received a rather good Q2 finish, and once painted, it looks as we wanted—fairly smooth, but with some natural texture. It appears as intended when painted. However, after a few years, cracks have started to appear. In two years, we will need to apply primer again, and then the situation might change.
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