ᐅ Looking for a townhouse in Berlin 12621 – any recommendations?
Created on: 7 Dec 2020 14:23
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Hello everyone, after extensively reading many posts and various personal experiences, I am a bit confused about choosing the right construction company.
A brief introduction to us... young couple in our mid-30s, no children and no plans to have any – net income around 7,000 € per month (about $7,500) plus additional bonuses, with an increasing trend. According to our financial advisor, we can easily afford financing of 650,000 € (approximately $700,000). We also already own a plot of land in Berlin 12621.
Now to the question: Are there any recommended builders in Berlin/East who construct city villas of about 150–180 m² (1,615–1,940 sq ft) with a basement and double garage? For every company we've considered, we’ve read horror stories. So far, we have looked at: Okal Haus, Helma, Roth, Kampa, Allkauf Haus, Heinz von Heiden, Town & Country.
We would greatly appreciate any specific recommendations.
Best regards
A brief introduction to us... young couple in our mid-30s, no children and no plans to have any – net income around 7,000 € per month (about $7,500) plus additional bonuses, with an increasing trend. According to our financial advisor, we can easily afford financing of 650,000 € (approximately $700,000). We also already own a plot of land in Berlin 12621.
Now to the question: Are there any recommended builders in Berlin/East who construct city villas of about 150–180 m² (1,615–1,940 sq ft) with a basement and double garage? For every company we've considered, we’ve read horror stories. So far, we have looked at: Okal Haus, Helma, Roth, Kampa, Allkauf Haus, Heinz von Heiden, Town & Country.
We would greatly appreciate any specific recommendations.
Best regards
Acof1978 schrieb:
I have heard a lot of good things about Richter Haus. This provider gives me a solid impression based on their website. I would have liked to see well-illustrated references, but at least there are authentic, non-anonymous customers and a clear regional focus. I need to take a closer look.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Baumeister86 schrieb:
Thanks for the tips.
How is the contact with KB Brandis going? I was a bit surprised to find out that KB Brandis is nearly 100km (62 miles) away from us. Is it really worthwhile (in terms of quality and price)?
Richter Haus sounds interesting. I will take a look at it.
Best regards,
Stephan With KB Brandis and some others, you should know that you need to have the floor plan ready. This means you should either know exactly what you want or have already been to an architect. They have a planner who can help with the floor plan, but an architect would be better.
We live about 40km (25 miles) further away. Communication takes place either in person or via Skype.
Acof1978 schrieb:
With KB Brandis and some others, you should know that the floor plan needs to be finalized. That means either you should know what you want or have already visited an architect. Not only with some but generally: this is not specific to Brandis; fundamentally, a draftsman never replaces an architect. Therefore, as a RULE (sorry, no bold formatting here), when building with a general contractor (GC), either one of their standard design templates should be used with at most one non-load-bearing wall moved, or you go with a design from your own architect. Even “proofreading” a layman’s draft usually overwhelms most draftsmen, at least on a creative level (they can just about fix a missing wall connection for a room door). However, a whimsically requested corner window is usually what the structural engineer stops first.
Acof1978 schrieb:
Otherwise, an acquaintance is building with a regional construction company and is happy. Marco Friedrich Bau from Stendal. I would also count them among the recommended providers.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Baumeister8620 Aug 2021 00:0711ant schrieb:
Not only in some cases but in general: this is not specific to Brandis, but basically a draftsman never replaces an architect. Therefore, when building with a general contractor, you should ALWAYS (sorry, bold text not possible here) either use one of their standardized design options and only shift a non-load-bearing wall at most, or proceed with your own architect design. Even "proofreading" a layperson’s design usually overwhelms most draftsmen, at least on the creative level (they can just about fix a missing wall connection for a room door). However, the structural engineer is usually the first to halt a whimsically requested corner window.
I would also count the structural engineer among the recommended providers.Silly question: The quotes always say that architectural services are included. To me, that means an architect must have reviewed the plans before submitting the building permit / planning permission application? Or does a draftsman really just move walls around and no one checks the structural calculations before submission?
Baumeister86 schrieb:
Silly question: The quotes always say that the architect’s service is included. To me, this means that an architect has reviewed everything before submitting the building permit / planning permission application? Or does only a draftsman move the walls around, and no one checks the structural engineering before submission? Structural engineering is of course checked. It’s just that no one — at least this was the case for us — creates the floor plan from start to finish for you. That has to be done by the architect first.
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