ᐅ Floor Plan Design for Living and Dining Area of 30 Square Meters
Created on: 6 Aug 2021 12:42
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moccanna
Hello everyone,
we are currently planning the living and dining area of our condominium. Construction has not started yet, so we have complete freedom regarding the connections and placement of the kitchen.
The floor plan of the room is somewhat challenging, and I’m not sure if we might be overcomplicating the initial planning. Therefore, we would greatly appreciate any tips on how to best design and divide the space.
The room needs to accommodate: kitchen, dining table, sofa + projector or TV.
Notes on the planning:
- The screen in the center is to be mounted on the ceiling and only lowered when watching movies.
- The table should be pushed all the way against the wall in normal use and only pulled further into the room when there are many guests, so that additional people can sit on the bench. (I have attached one version for 8 people and one for 6 people.)
Do you have any other ideas to make the best use of the space? The kitchen island is not absolutely necessary, but due to the pillar, the use of the room seems rather limited from my perspective.
Best regards and thanks for your help
we are currently planning the living and dining area of our condominium. Construction has not started yet, so we have complete freedom regarding the connections and placement of the kitchen.
The floor plan of the room is somewhat challenging, and I’m not sure if we might be overcomplicating the initial planning. Therefore, we would greatly appreciate any tips on how to best design and divide the space.
The room needs to accommodate: kitchen, dining table, sofa + projector or TV.
Notes on the planning:
- The screen in the center is to be mounted on the ceiling and only lowered when watching movies.
- The table should be pushed all the way against the wall in normal use and only pulled further into the room when there are many guests, so that additional people can sit on the bench. (I have attached one version for 8 people and one for 6 people.)
Do you have any other ideas to make the best use of the space? The kitchen island is not absolutely necessary, but due to the pillar, the use of the room seems rather limited from my perspective.
Best regards and thanks for your help
ypg schrieb:
I would extend the kitchen countertop under the window, then have a 30cm (12 inches) or 40cm (16 inches) deep section along the partition wall, and finally a kitchen island with a 60cm (24 inches) depth and a half-height wall up to the beam.
Furnish it as suggested by the floor plan, possibly placing the sofa against the back wall of the kitchen. The table could be a extendable one. The projection screen should go on the wall. I personally wouldn’t arrange it crosswise in the room, as I would find that disruptive in use. In our previous apartment, we had a small studio with a mini kitchenette arranged just like you described. The red niche would be the window, and along the right edge of the picture, the large countertop would run along the wall towards the bathroom.
The green “wall” was simply a torsion-resistant wooden board with a small shelf on top, matching the thickness of the column. Below it was an LED strip providing glare-free lighting in the living area.
Of course, this won’t be a large kitchen, but it’s very suitable and practical considering the compactness of the space. I would probably skip a countertop under the window so it doesn’t look too crowded.
Hangman schrieb:
In our previous apartment, we had a small studio with a tiny kitchenette, and it was arranged just like you described. The red recess in the photo represents the window, and along the right edge of the picture, the large countertop would run along the wall towards the bathroom.
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The green "wall" was simply a torsion-resistant wooden board, with a small shelf on top, matching the thickness of the supporting column. Below it was an LED strip providing glare-free lighting for the living area.
Of course, this is not a full kitchen, but it’s very suitable and practical given the compact size of the space. I would probably avoid placing a countertop under the window so it doesn't look too cluttered. This is exactly what I mean. I would keep the wall somewhat lower. That way, you’d have a kitchen large enough and a real living room. Whether you have a projector screen or TV doesn’t really matter for the layout.
@moccanna
What is the large storage room for? Is this an apartment built into a slope?
Thanks for all the great tips. It’s really amazing how much you’re helping! 🙂
I don’t think the plan with the pillar will work since it’s only 1.96 m (6 feet 5 inches), and 60 cm (2 feet) are needed for the row along the wall to the bathroom. Then there’s 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) between the two rows… leaving only 36 cm (14 inches) for the row facing the living room, right? So it would have to be slightly offset.
@ypg
Yes, the house is built on a slope, so the room is labeled as a storage room. However, the space is fully equipped and can also be used as living space. I haven’t decided on its use yet.
I don’t think the plan with the pillar will work since it’s only 1.96 m (6 feet 5 inches), and 60 cm (2 feet) are needed for the row along the wall to the bathroom. Then there’s 1 meter (3 feet 3 inches) between the two rows… leaving only 36 cm (14 inches) for the row facing the living room, right? So it would have to be slightly offset.
@ypg
Yes, the house is built on a slope, so the room is labeled as a storage room. However, the space is fully equipped and can also be used as living space. I haven’t decided on its use yet.
moccanna schrieb:
I don’t think the plan with the pillar will work, since it’s only 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in), and 60 cm (2 ft) will be taken up by the row along the wall to the bathroom. Then there’s 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) left between the two rows... That’s right. It’s too narrow.
Are there two of you living there?
What if you make a U-shape with the “counter” facing the wardrobe?
And then put the TV area in that storage room?
The hobby room could remain hobby and storage as storage, the multipurpose room with a table in front of the panoramic window and a workspace in the multipurpose room?
That could be an option... In the end, it depends on how you live your life and which priorities you set.
Hello everyone,
Some time has passed, and we have made further progress with the planning.
As you can see from the floor plan itself, the apartment is designed quite compactly, which presents some challenges and certainly requires compromises in several areas. We have reflected again on our lifestyle—what is important to us and what we don’t need (not, for example, the breakfast bar with the bar stools).
In the meantime (it’s not so easy to get an appointment), we have met with two kitchen planners and already have kitchen designs. One is a galley-style kitchen, and the other is a design that also includes a cabinet under the window with the sink. In terms of storage, both kitchens are more than sufficient at this point.
In this context, we have also reconsidered the floor plan and the entrance area and would like to evaluate with you what you can share from your experience. The idea is to move the wall between the kitchen and the bathroom so that it aligns flush with the pillar. This would widen the entrance hallway from 1.70 meters (5 feet 7 inches) to about 2.30 meters (7 feet 7 inches) and, from our perspective, would feel much more open.
The kitchen would be large enough for us.
The question is the bathroom: We would have to decide whether we prefer a "super small bathroom" (about 3.5 square meters (38 square feet)) or at least a "small bathroom" (about 4.5 square meters (48 square feet)). I tried to illustrate my idea briefly in Paint. Do you think losing 60 cm (2 feet) in length from the bathroom would be a big issue? Due to the “narrow shape,” our personal opinion is that the extra 60 cm (2 feet) don’t add much. In either case, the bathroom is quite suboptimal and cozy in size. 🙂
Some time has passed, and we have made further progress with the planning.
As you can see from the floor plan itself, the apartment is designed quite compactly, which presents some challenges and certainly requires compromises in several areas. We have reflected again on our lifestyle—what is important to us and what we don’t need (not, for example, the breakfast bar with the bar stools).
In the meantime (it’s not so easy to get an appointment), we have met with two kitchen planners and already have kitchen designs. One is a galley-style kitchen, and the other is a design that also includes a cabinet under the window with the sink. In terms of storage, both kitchens are more than sufficient at this point.
In this context, we have also reconsidered the floor plan and the entrance area and would like to evaluate with you what you can share from your experience. The idea is to move the wall between the kitchen and the bathroom so that it aligns flush with the pillar. This would widen the entrance hallway from 1.70 meters (5 feet 7 inches) to about 2.30 meters (7 feet 7 inches) and, from our perspective, would feel much more open.
The kitchen would be large enough for us.
The question is the bathroom: We would have to decide whether we prefer a "super small bathroom" (about 3.5 square meters (38 square feet)) or at least a "small bathroom" (about 4.5 square meters (48 square feet)). I tried to illustrate my idea briefly in Paint. Do you think losing 60 cm (2 feet) in length from the bathroom would be a big issue? Due to the “narrow shape,” our personal opinion is that the extra 60 cm (2 feet) don’t add much. In either case, the bathroom is quite suboptimal and cozy in size. 🙂
ypg schrieb:
There are two of you, right? The question is still unanswered.
moccanna schrieb:
Do you think losing 60cm (24 inches) in length from the bathroom will be a problem? YES!
moccanna schrieb:
Because of the "narrow shape" If it’s going to be narrow, then really narrow 😉
I think you’re cutting down on the wrong area when reducing square meters. The square meters in the bathroom are important—more important than having an extra square meter in the hallway.
moccanna schrieb:
That would widen the entrance hallway from 1.70 to about 2.30 meters (5 ft 7 in to 7 ft 7 in) and, in our opinion, open it up a lot more And what would you gain from that? The whole room would feel like you’re sitting in the hallway because every line of sight leads to the door.
We’re not talking about widening a 1-meter (3 ft 3 in) narrow corridor here; it’s already 1.70 meters (5 ft 7 in) wide and visually expanded by the kitchen. I’m also concerned about making the kitchen smaller. If it’s currently sufficient, that’s fine. Then you’ll be storing your office files in a kitchen cabinet. Eventually, there will be new dishes, new appliances, or new storage containers, and you’ll be grateful for every bit of extra space. Changes in eating habits can lead to different groceries, and suddenly space gets tight very quickly.
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