I thought a garden chat and photo thread would be a good idea.
This way, we have a space to share current pictures and discuss dandelions and other plants.
This way, we have a space to share current pictures and discuss dandelions and other plants.
kati1337 schrieb:
Very cool! Thanks!
I just saw your reply today.
Right now, I’ve completely lost interest in the garden. Regardless of the weather, we mostly stay indoors. As soon as the sun comes out and I open my patio door, I either hear country music or techno blasting from the neighbor’s property. Most of the time, I just turn around and go back inside.
I’m starting to feel helpless about what to do. He argues that the volume is at a reasonable level. But I’m not sure you can really call it “room volume” when there’s still 45dB reaching my side of the property behind the fence (and that’s after he’s already turned it down).
Right now, the music is being drowned out by his teenager revving an unregistered motorcycle in circles around the residential area… great way to spend a Sunday. But 45dB is almost nothing.
Try entering it into a well-known search engine and look for volume level comparisons. Either your measuring device is inaccurate, or your ears are a bit more sensitive ^^
I can only really recommend moderate alcohol consumption temporarily. It helps you loosen up and take things with humor. At least your house seems to provide good sound insulation. I can hear music, children, and so on, all coming through, so I just go outside right away 🙂
When it really annoys me sometimes, I simply drive away. Either by car or bike to go for a trip.
When it really annoys me sometimes, I simply drive away. Either by car or bike to go for a trip.
If I had to constantly hear Florian Silbereisen and Helenchen or something similar coming from the neighbor’s property, I would probably lose it too. Apart from the fact that continuous noise annoys me anyway – but when it’s music that makes my toes curl, it gets even worse.
Unfortunately, you have no legal recourse; there’s nothing you can do about it. I would try to talk to them and ask if they could at least avoid the continuous noise during certain times (for example, in the evening when you want to sit outside peacefully). There likely isn’t any other solution. Would that be possible with your neighbor?
Or you could try counter-noise. Few people can tolerate a strictly twelve-tone classical piece for long – not even at room volume. That might at least create a basis for discussion with your neighbor (I’ll stop if you do too!).
Unfortunately, you have no legal recourse; there’s nothing you can do about it. I would try to talk to them and ask if they could at least avoid the continuous noise during certain times (for example, in the evening when you want to sit outside peacefully). There likely isn’t any other solution. Would that be possible with your neighbor?
Or you could try counter-noise. Few people can tolerate a strictly twelve-tone classical piece for long – not even at room volume. That might at least create a basis for discussion with your neighbor (I’ll stop if you do too!).
It’s easier said than done. When I think back to the past, the kids were outside the office. They made noise, and I was on edge. I was annoyed. Only when my colleagues started to notice that the kids were playing outside again did I almost lose my temper.
What helped? Well, changing jobs would have been a bit extreme. I used earplugs, then winter came, and by spring it got better. I never enjoyed the sight, but it didn’t drive me crazy anymore.
As many have suggested, try to distract yourself, fill the garden with positive things, and learn to tune it out. It’s not actually loud; it’s really a matter of mindset. My husband and I don’t even notice the car traffic around here anymore. But every party uphill from us is noticed. It sounds like they’re sitting on our terrace. Now we entertain ourselves by trying to guess who’s celebrating. Depending on where you stand, it sounds different. So we try to make it something ridiculous instead of getting annoyed.
Create your own oasis. Plant a hedge, a section of visual screening. Redesign your garden if the music becomes annoying again.
What helped? Well, changing jobs would have been a bit extreme. I used earplugs, then winter came, and by spring it got better. I never enjoyed the sight, but it didn’t drive me crazy anymore.
As many have suggested, try to distract yourself, fill the garden with positive things, and learn to tune it out. It’s not actually loud; it’s really a matter of mindset. My husband and I don’t even notice the car traffic around here anymore. But every party uphill from us is noticed. It sounds like they’re sitting on our terrace. Now we entertain ourselves by trying to guess who’s celebrating. Depending on where you stand, it sounds different. So we try to make it something ridiculous instead of getting annoyed.
Create your own oasis. Plant a hedge, a section of visual screening. Redesign your garden if the music becomes annoying again.
Snowy36 schrieb:
I completely understand, that would annoy me too. But you have to expose yourself to it, that’s called exposure therapy… just play some quiet, pleasant music yourself and look out onto your garden… otherwise you’ll keep fixating on it and your anger at your neighbor, and then it’s so present in your mind that you only focus on that…
Do you have any kind of privacy screen facing them? Hello,
yes, we have now installed the privacy screen. I’m also trying to block the “gap under the fence” at the bottom with bricks. I’m no mason, but maybe that will help. However, to really stop the noise I’d probably need to build a soundproof wall 3–4 meters (10–13 feet) high, which I’m afraid is not allowed as a boundary structure.
I naively believed that no one would put a bass speaker in their garden. If I had known beforehand, maybe we would have looked longer for an old farmhouse in a remote area. But neither in my old neighborhood nor anywhere else in our new development does anyone do this. It really is just our neighbors who think this necessary. I myself would never think of turning up a bass-heavy speaker in my garden.
The neighbors on the other side sometimes have music on while working, but they use a portable device and take it with them, so it’s not loud enough to be disturbing. And they don’t do it on Sundays.
The ones who bother us place the speaker with a power cord against the house wall and turn it up so loud that you can hear it throughout the entire garden (including ours).
Only the bass frequencies reach us loudly.
I’ve tried to drown it out with my own quiet music, but that doesn’t work. First, I almost get annoyed by my own music because I relax better when I’m not listening to anything, and then it bothers me that I have to keep it on. Also, it’s even more annoying because my own music clashes with the "opponent’s" bass line, and they don’t blend well. You end up with a bad cacophony, which is worse than just the constant noise.
I really can’t imagine that something like this could be considered “room volume” (at least the low frequencies), when the neighbor plays music on their property and I can hear it over my TV in my living room with closed windows? Even if the sound is reflected unfavorably, that shouldn’t amplify the sound pressure, right? If it’s passing through our walls, the pressure must just be too high?
I can’t believe this can be legal almost every Sunday.
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