ᐅ Basement wall thickness (not exterior)? Recessing the meter cabinet/charge controller?
Created on: 19 Jul 2021 23:51
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Tobias Claren19 Jul 2021 23:51Hello.
About 8 years ago, a new two-way meter was installed in a surface-mounted cabinet in the basement anteroom, along with two charge controllers screwed to the wall.
Would it be possible to install this equipment flush-mounted by removing some material? During the installation, part of a wrought-iron coat rack was removed.
It’s still lying around. That way, it could be reinstalled, and the charge controllers hidden behind it—at least when jackets are hanging on it.
Also, the cabinet no longer takes up space next to the sofa, where a table is placed.
The wall is not an exterior wall. Behind it is either soil or the foundation (which would be a very thick “wall”).
About 8 years ago, a new two-way meter was installed in a surface-mounted cabinet in the basement anteroom, along with two charge controllers screwed to the wall.
Would it be possible to install this equipment flush-mounted by removing some material? During the installation, part of a wrought-iron coat rack was removed.
It’s still lying around. That way, it could be reinstalled, and the charge controllers hidden behind it—at least when jackets are hanging on it.
Also, the cabinet no longer takes up space next to the sofa, where a table is placed.
The wall is not an exterior wall. Behind it is either soil or the foundation (which would be a very thick “wall”).
How is that supposed to work? An electrical meter cabinet is about 20 cm (8 inches) deep. You would need fortress-like walls to recess it into the wall without damage.
In my understanding, only interior walls do not extend "outward." What do you mean by that statement? (Because soil is also "outside.")
Tobias Claren schrieb:
The wall does not extend outward. Behind it is either soil at some point, or a foundation (which would be a very thick "wall").
In my understanding, only interior walls do not extend "outward." What do you mean by that statement? (Because soil is also "outside.")
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nordanney20 Jul 2021 09:15Tobias Claren schrieb:
The wall doesn’t face outward.Then just make an opening in the interior wall. What’s the problem?Tobias Claren schrieb:
So behind it there is either soil at some point,Ah, that’s the problem. You are storing soil behind the interior wall. That also explains your space issue. 😉Take a photo or upload a plan. That will make it easier to understand.
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hampshire20 Jul 2021 09:21Sounds like a lot of effort for a wardrobe. It might be more cost-effective and feasible to build a different wardrobe solution in front of the equipment. It still needs to be accessible, whether built into or mounted on the wall. Make sure to consider the air circulation and cooling requirements of the electronics.
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Tobias Claren20 Jul 2021 15:05@ hampshire
It’s not about the wardrobe itself, but that the stuff "decorates" the wall and protrudes into the room.
They just thought “quickly” to put it somewhere.
The cables are routed along the wall inside conduit pieces with clamps.
Of course, these would be installed flush with the wall eventually.
They should have provided the dimensions of the cabinet and the inverters beforehand and asked to find or create space for them.
I checked this on the plan (Google: flat roof bungalow F115).
It’s not directly at the edge of the house, but only because of the extension, which is newer than the house itself.
So the wall is probably the direct exterior wall facing forward.
No idea how deep they dug back then and whether and how they connected the old foundation with the new one.
Isn’t there some kind of membrane or layer on the exterior wall?
For example, something like roofing felt?
A roughly measured alternative would be to concentrate all that equipment under the stairs on the wall.
The large sealed main connection has external screws into the wall.
So it could be detached from the wall and moved slightly.
Only the meter cabinet has screws in the theoretically sealed area.
However, the electrician who installed it placed two lead seals and one plastic seal on the meter, but not on the cover underneath that connects the main connection to the meter.
There’s an orange plastic screw that allows a wire to be threaded through it… but there is no wire.
I can still take photos, but it’s a wall under the stairs where the main connection is located.
I have informed Westnetz for now.
And in their possible response, I will mention that the box should still be able to be moved even after sealing.
If not, the only option would be a 230mm (9 inch) angle grinder and an SDS-Max rotary hammer.
Then the whole thing would have to be removed with a piece of the wall 🤨.
It’s rather questionable if a manufacturer places the screws that hold something to the wall within the sealed area.
It could be careless, but it could also be an illegitimate attempt to protect a vested interest. After all, there is legally nothing against moving a sealed box, as it is also closed at the back.
It’s not about the wardrobe itself, but that the stuff "decorates" the wall and protrudes into the room.
They just thought “quickly” to put it somewhere.
The cables are routed along the wall inside conduit pieces with clamps.
Of course, these would be installed flush with the wall eventually.
They should have provided the dimensions of the cabinet and the inverters beforehand and asked to find or create space for them.
I checked this on the plan (Google: flat roof bungalow F115).
It’s not directly at the edge of the house, but only because of the extension, which is newer than the house itself.
So the wall is probably the direct exterior wall facing forward.
No idea how deep they dug back then and whether and how they connected the old foundation with the new one.
Isn’t there some kind of membrane or layer on the exterior wall?
For example, something like roofing felt?
A roughly measured alternative would be to concentrate all that equipment under the stairs on the wall.
The large sealed main connection has external screws into the wall.
So it could be detached from the wall and moved slightly.
Only the meter cabinet has screws in the theoretically sealed area.
However, the electrician who installed it placed two lead seals and one plastic seal on the meter, but not on the cover underneath that connects the main connection to the meter.
There’s an orange plastic screw that allows a wire to be threaded through it… but there is no wire.
I can still take photos, but it’s a wall under the stairs where the main connection is located.
I have informed Westnetz for now.
And in their possible response, I will mention that the box should still be able to be moved even after sealing.
If not, the only option would be a 230mm (9 inch) angle grinder and an SDS-Max rotary hammer.
Then the whole thing would have to be removed with a piece of the wall 🤨.
It’s rather questionable if a manufacturer places the screws that hold something to the wall within the sealed area.
It could be careless, but it could also be an illegitimate attempt to protect a vested interest. After all, there is legally nothing against moving a sealed box, as it is also closed at the back.
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