Hello everyone,
Since this is about being "outside," this seemed like the most appropriate subforum.
We have been living in the house for 3.5 years now and are currently looking into the topic of patio roofing. I have already had initial on-site discussions with two local companies. Unfortunately, these talks raised more questions than answers.
The area to be covered is about 26 sqm (280 sq ft). Width 7.30 m (24 ft) and depth 4.00 m (13 ft), with the special feature that part of the patio narrows diagonally, so the depth on the left side is not 4.00 m but 2.00 m (7 ft). This means that part of the roof and drainage must slope diagonally and be adjusted on-site; a roof of a standard size x by y meters won’t work for us.
What we originally wanted and were offered:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- 10 mm (0.4 inch) laminated safety glass (VSG) roofing
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- Under-roof shading with a wireless sensor
- Both sides (left with 2.00 m (7 ft) depth and right with 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs 19,000 EUR. Shading on top of the roof with a weather station was even more expensive. Shading adapted to the sloping area was even pricier. The affordable under-roof shading would not cover the sloped section of about 3 sqm (32 sq ft).
What the second company proposed:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- White milky polycarbonate twin-wall panels roofing *
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- No shading
- Only one side (right 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs "only" 8,000 EUR.
* This company specializes in polycarbonate twin-wall panels. Apparently, this roofing has many advantages. A double UV filter protects against the sun, while an integrated prism structure is said to concentrate sunlight and direct it downward, resulting in only 7% light loss. Supposedly, no shading is needed. The climate under it should always feel as if you are sitting in the shade. Polycarbonate is said to be self-cleaning.
I am mainly skeptical now. Of course, I would prefer the cheaper option, but I find it hard to fully believe all these benefits, especially the claim that no shading is necessary. Do you have any experience with this? The main argument against twin-wall panels seems to be noise during rain, but that doesn’t matter to us, so that argument is irrelevant.
Overall, it is very difficult to find a suitable company and to assess the prices. How did you solve this?
Thanks and best regards!
Since this is about being "outside," this seemed like the most appropriate subforum.
We have been living in the house for 3.5 years now and are currently looking into the topic of patio roofing. I have already had initial on-site discussions with two local companies. Unfortunately, these talks raised more questions than answers.
The area to be covered is about 26 sqm (280 sq ft). Width 7.30 m (24 ft) and depth 4.00 m (13 ft), with the special feature that part of the patio narrows diagonally, so the depth on the left side is not 4.00 m but 2.00 m (7 ft). This means that part of the roof and drainage must slope diagonally and be adjusted on-site; a roof of a standard size x by y meters won’t work for us.
What we originally wanted and were offered:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- 10 mm (0.4 inch) laminated safety glass (VSG) roofing
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- Under-roof shading with a wireless sensor
- Both sides (left with 2.00 m (7 ft) depth and right with 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs 19,000 EUR. Shading on top of the roof with a weather station was even more expensive. Shading adapted to the sloping area was even pricier. The affordable under-roof shading would not cover the sloped section of about 3 sqm (32 sq ft).
What the second company proposed:
- Powder-coated aluminum construction
- White milky polycarbonate twin-wall panels roofing *
- LED spots integrated into the rafters
- No shading
- Only one side (right 4.00 m (13 ft) depth) closable with frameless glass sliding doors
This option costs "only" 8,000 EUR.
* This company specializes in polycarbonate twin-wall panels. Apparently, this roofing has many advantages. A double UV filter protects against the sun, while an integrated prism structure is said to concentrate sunlight and direct it downward, resulting in only 7% light loss. Supposedly, no shading is needed. The climate under it should always feel as if you are sitting in the shade. Polycarbonate is said to be self-cleaning.
I am mainly skeptical now. Of course, I would prefer the cheaper option, but I find it hard to fully believe all these benefits, especially the claim that no shading is necessary. Do you have any experience with this? The main argument against twin-wall panels seems to be noise during rain, but that doesn’t matter to us, so that argument is irrelevant.
Overall, it is very difficult to find a suitable company and to assess the prices. How did you solve this?
Thanks and best regards!
P
pagoni202019 May 2021 13:52I’m really looking forward to it. I have an appointment tomorrow regarding the carport and terrace, also made of wood. For the terrace roof, I’m considering either climbing plants or a few photovoltaic panels. I already received an initial quote, but that was a few months ago. Now it’s time for the “fine tuning” and the little details that keep popping into my head. 😀
I like the idea of the swing/relaxation chair—we’re planning something similar inside the house. Depending on the orientation, the awning might still be useful if the sun gets too low in the sky.
I like the idea of the swing/relaxation chair—we’re planning something similar inside the house. Depending on the orientation, the awning might still be useful if the sun gets too low in the sky.
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immermehr15 Jun 2021 06:30BauMixx schrieb:
So, if you ultimately decide on a square canopy rather than one adapted to a sloping side, I can recommend a KD canopy. For our new build project, we went with a canopy measuring 3.5m deep and 5m wide (11.5ft by 16.4ft), not in RAL 7016 but in DB703. The roof is laminated safety glass (VSG) and has 10 LEDs (one row in the middle and one row at the front). Below it is a roof-mounted awning and a side awning on the west side.
Both awnings and the LED strips (controlled separately) operate with a single multi-channel remote control. However, we installed the LED controls ourselves or had a friend do it. It only took about an hour.
I’m not sure if they can be connected to a wind or sun sensor, but since all components are from Somfy and use the iO radio standard, I assume there are solutions available.
We are very happy with this setup, and in the end, it wasn’t much more expensive than your polycarbonate option. Our neighbors chose polycarbonate for cost reasons but were quite annoyed after installation at how much darker their living room became.
The frame is definitely made of powder-coated aluminum as well.
We checked with local craftsmen and other companies for similar solutions and found prices well over 20,000 EUR.
I hope this helps, even if I’m not suggesting the perfect solution for you. Hello BauMixx,
how many posts were needed for your setup? According to the KD website, three posts are required for spans of 4m (13ft) or more.
Also, how was the installation done? I mean the sequence with the foundation, backfilling, canopy installation, and paving. We will need to do backfilling soon as well.
Thanks for your reply.
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immermehr21 Jul 2021 17:07@BauMixx : Would you have time to answer my questions above?
immermehr schrieb:
Hello Baumixx,
how many posts do you need?
According to KD’s website, 3 posts are required for spans over 4m (13 feet).
And how was the installation done for you? I mean the process with the foundation, backfilling, roofing, paving. We need to backfill soon as well.
Thanks for your reply. I don’t have a KD roof, but a 5 x 4m (16.5 x 13 feet) unheated conservatory from Dreku (with sliding glass doors on 3 sides). The front beam is reinforced, so no third post is needed for the 5m (16.5 feet) width.
We backfilled and compacted as required for our later terrace flooring. At the installation appointment, the holes for the pier foundations were dug into the compacted ground. Then the roof structure was assembled first, and everything was measured again. The sliding doors and the side triangular panels were custom-made to size and installed at the next appointment. After that, the terrace paving slabs were laid.
Schimi179122 Jul 2021 10:14sirhc schrieb:
We have now placed an order for a roof covering. It will start mid to late March.
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