ᐅ Is it necessary to have an independent expert in addition to the architect and construction manager?

Created on: 12 Jun 2021 13:47
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Hendrik1980
Is it advisable to hire an independent expert for individual construction phases, even though the architect in charge of the planning is also responsible for site management and the project is tendered in individual contracts? Shouldn't the architect actually cover the tasks of the expert?
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nordanney
14 Jun 2021 08:41
Hendrik1980 schrieb:

Is it useful to hire an independent expert for individual construction phases, even though the architect in charge is managing the project?
So you want to hire an expert to oversee the first professional (the architect) and provide a second opinion? But then who supervises the expert to ensure they are doing their job properly?

Seriously. If the architect is competent, they can and should deliver the service you’re paying for. You don’t take your car to the MOT test and then also go to other inspection centers just to be on the safe side.
11ant14 Jun 2021 13:28
guckuck2 schrieb:

If the architect is a full-time artist who never shows up on the construction site, I would

... not have hired them in the first place.
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guckuck2
14 Jun 2021 16:10
11ant schrieb:

... who didn’t even bother to take it.

"Work avoiders" or "pure theorists" unfortunately rarely have that on their business cards.
11ant14 Jun 2021 16:35
guckuck2 schrieb:

"Work avoiders" or "pure theorists" unfortunately rarely have those titles on their business cards.
The technical draftsman is not a work avoider but simply not suited for life outside the academic safe zone. The pure theorist usually reveals themselves when estimating costs. The best way to avoid both is a simple trick: never meet architects for the first time in their office, but rather visit them directly on their construction sites.
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guckuck2
14 Jun 2021 16:45
11ant schrieb:

The draftsperson is not avoiding work but simply not suited for life outside the academic protective environment.

Actually, the architect handles phases 1 to 4 well and enthusiastically, but these only add up to 27% of the fee.
The real income comes from detailed design (phase 5 – 25%) and construction supervision (phase 8 – 32%).
11ant schrieb:

The pure theorist usually reveals themselves during cost estimation. The best way to avoid both is the simple trick of never meeting architects for the first time in their office but rather on their construction sites.

How does that help?
11ant14 Jun 2021 17:01
guckuck2 schrieb:

How does that help?
I probably should have explicitly added: "during working hours." The theorist clearly feels uncomfortable and uncertain on site and tends to avoid confrontation with (especially experienced and articulate or even quick-witted) practitioners; furthermore, there are plenty of details on construction sites where spontaneous questions can easily unsettle him. You can also tell whether the construction workers are used to his visits or if they usually only see his employees.
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