ᐅ Opening direction of the sliding door to the terrace / patio

Created on: 11 Jun 2021 19:52
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NilsW87
Hello dear community,

As you might have guessed, we are currently building. Just a condominium unit and not a house. I hope you can still help me 😉

The floor plan of the unit is fixed. However, we still need to decide in which direction the sliding door to the roof terrace should open and we are undecided. The designer planned for the sliding door to open to the right (as shown on the plan). We are considering changing the opening to the left side of the plan.

In our opinion, the direction of the door opening depends a lot on how we want to furnish our living and dining area in the future. So far, we have created two possible furnishing concepts.
  • In the first idea, the dining table (140x90 cm (55x35 inches)) is placed in front of the window and a sideboard for additional storage is positioned on the left wall of the living area.
  • The distance between the kitchen wall and the chair is about 70cm (27.5 inches). The same applies to the other side between the sofa and the chair.
    Here, the sliding door would open to the left:

    Top-Ansicht eines offenen Wohn- und Küchenbereichs mit Esstisch, Sofa, Pflanze und Kinderzimmer 02.

  • In the second idea, the dining table (160x100 cm (63x39 inches)) is placed along the left wall of the living area and a display cabinet is positioned in the transition between kitchen and living room.
  • The distance between the dining table and the rug is about 100cm (39 inches). Here, the sliding door would open as planned to the right:

    Top-Down-Grundriss: Küche links, Essbereich Mitte, Wohnzimmer rechts, Kinderzimmer unten links.


We actually prefer the first idea since it separates the dining area somewhat from the seating area. But do you think this would be feasible? Or is the space between the chairs and sofa/wall too small?
The second idea allows for a larger dining table. However, we don’t really like that you walk directly toward the dining table when entering from the living room door and that the sofa faces the table all the time.

We would appreciate any suggestions or tips 🙂

Thank you very much for your help and best regards
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Bertram100
13 Jun 2021 10:38
I would probably furnish it similarly to DaSch17, but without a fixed L-shaped sofa. In your layout, you can clearly see how much space the L-shape takes up along with the square coffee table. And that setup isn’t easily flexible for rearranging.

I’ve suggested this elsewhere before: if the TV isn’t absolutely essential for you, consider placing it on a low rolling cart. During the day, it can be tucked away in a corner next to or behind the sofa or a plant and simply pulled out when needed. I think this improves the room’s atmosphere, as it avoids having a large black plastic box dominating the view. I’ve observed at friends’ homes how pleasant this concept is. Personally, I find a living room without a TV more appealing.
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Hannes S
13 Jun 2021 12:21
DaSch17 schrieb:

Everything is possible with the necessary budget 😉

I would arrange the furniture differently: place the TV wall on the wall next to children's room 2; put the corner sofa in the bottom right corner; position the dining table lengthwise in front of the sliding door.

Then the opening direction wouldn’t be so crucial. Due to the path from the kitchen to the balcony, it would probably make sense for the door to open from left to right.
That was also my first thought. Rotate both sofas 90° to the right and place the TV on the children's room wall. This creates more space in the currently unused area in the top right, where the dining table will then have enough room without being in the way. I would position the table with the narrow side facing the terrace (so, vertically in the drawing).
This way, all seating positions have a view outside, making the space feel more open.
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ypg
14 Jun 2021 00:08
I'm also in favor of Plan C 😉

Living room where the kitchen is now. Just a TV corner. Lounge area on two sides and the TV on a movable unit. Sliding element to then be adapted to the kitchen and dining table. Also consider the direction facing outside: how will the balcony be furnished?

How many people does the kitchen need to accommodate? It's not even enough for my husband and me 🤨
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guckuck2
14 Jun 2021 08:19
Plan A and B are both quite impractical. The layout with the dining table facing the kitchen just doesn’t work. The sofas and their arrangement take up all the available space.

The suggestion from @DaSch17 is heading in a very good direction. This way, you have sensible walking paths. In plans A and B, it’s just zigzagging everywhere, including squeezing through in all directions. Even a $10,000 glass solution won’t fix that ;-)
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NilsW87
14 Jun 2021 14:12
@ypg The apartment is planned for a household of three (or maybe four) people.
As suggested, I roughly furnished the terrace as well. Since it is 383cm deep and 1183cm wide, there is plenty of space regardless of which way the terrace door will open 🙂

We have already dismissed Option A, where the dining table would be placed in front of the terrace door, due to the narrow walkways. Currently, we are leaning more towards Option B with a 140x90cm (55x35 inches) table placed centrally to the left:


Top view of an open living and kitchen area with terrace, dining table, sofa and plants.



Living room with sofa, coffee table, TV, bookshelf; terrace with lounge chair, grill and plants


The orientation of the sliding door could remain as originally planned by the developer.

I also recreated your Option C:

[IMG width="413px"]https://www.hausbau-forum.de/attachments/option_c-png.62501/?hash=aa4edbc3e986c0f25a42b8d8ca41b012[/IMG]

However, my wife and I feel this option doesn’t really fit the room well.
Also, we wouldn’t be able to accommodate the planned furniture (see display cabinets outside the room).

Personally, I find Option D with the TV corner very appealing. But my wife was firmly against it 😀
Besides, the kitchen shafts are only planned in the corner, so it would probably not be easy to rearrange things there.
Still, here’s how it might look:


3D floor plan of an open kitchen with island, dining table, living room with sofa and TV.



Living room with gray sofas, round wooden table, dining table with chairs, bookshelf, plant
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guckuck2
14 Jun 2021 16:05
Definitely option C. The room feels best this way, reasonably spacious. The walkways are clear. The view from the sofa faces the window wall, with no sunlight hitting the TV. The dining area also benefits from the glass wall and remains close to the kitchen.
Place the display cabinets along the wall where the shelf is. Rethink the sideboard by the hallway door, it just takes up space. Better to choose something taller. For the sofa, consider whether an L-shape might actually be more efficient.

Option D feels too cramped for seating. If anything, the dining area could go into the recess (ideally remove that short section of wall, if possible (shaft?)).

A slightly smaller roof terrace and a few more square meters in the open-plan living area would have been nice ;-)