ᐅ Floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor without a parapet or knee wall
Created on: 9 Jun 2021 19:27
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Reltaw2021
Hello everyone!
I have been following the forum for a while, but now I have some current questions that I haven’t found answers to yet, so I have become a more active member.
I would like to avoid using guard rails on the lower edge of floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs to eliminate the risk of falling from the window sill.
Therefore, I plan to implement the following alternative measures:
1. Use safety glass corresponding to category A *
2. Lockable with a key, with the key stored elsewhere
3. Visible indicators on the window such as blinds or frosted glass stickers
4. Restrict access by placing furniture or plants in front of the windows
Has anyone here already received official building approval for something like this?
I would also be willing to remove the window handles if it came down to it.
For those who haven’t figured it out yet—I’m not a fan of French balconies, transoms, or divided windows.
Perhaps someone has done something similar with windows that are basically fixed?
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Retlaw
* DIN 18008-4
I have been following the forum for a while, but now I have some current questions that I haven’t found answers to yet, so I have become a more active member.
I would like to avoid using guard rails on the lower edge of floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs to eliminate the risk of falling from the window sill.
Therefore, I plan to implement the following alternative measures:
1. Use safety glass corresponding to category A *
2. Lockable with a key, with the key stored elsewhere
3. Visible indicators on the window such as blinds or frosted glass stickers
4. Restrict access by placing furniture or plants in front of the windows
Has anyone here already received official building approval for something like this?
I would also be willing to remove the window handles if it came down to it.
For those who haven’t figured it out yet—I’m not a fan of French balconies, transoms, or divided windows.
Perhaps someone has done something similar with windows that are basically fixed?
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Retlaw
* DIN 18008-4
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Reltaw202110 Jun 2021 13:10i_b_n_a_n schrieb:
When it comes to aesthetics: there are venetian blind systems that integrate an almost invisible (glass pane) as a fall protection Really? Could you show a picture? I can’t imagine what something like that looks like.
tomtom79 schrieb:
Just have them included in the building permit drawings and then simply don’t build them. Many in our new development only installed them years later.
I hardly believe anyone will come to check.
Legally, if something happens, you’re responsible. That’s how I would do it too..
driver55 schrieb:
40 cm (16 inches) parapet? That should be questioned!? You can set parapets however you like. But if you think that 40 cm (16 inches) is not enough, I agree with you.Floor-to-ceiling windows basically have only one good feature—namely for those passing by or standing opposite, who can look into the room.
For me, anything below waist height on private floors is a no-go; I would always recommend (masonry) parapets.
With roller shutters, the rule is: either fully open or completely closed for privacy and intimacy, not half-closed. And then it’s dark 🙁
Otherwise, as an alternative: windows with a horizontal two-part division, bottom fixed plus top operable sash. But I guess that’s not what you want?
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hampshire10 Jun 2021 14:05Reltaw2021 schrieb:
Has anyone here already passed the official building inspection?It was no problem at all. During the inspection, there was a very simple temporary balustrade in place.M
Myrna_Loy10 Jun 2021 14:15I wouldn’t take that risk with children in the household. In our apartment, all the window handles can be locked. A few weeks ago, the balcony door was left open because the little child was able to reach the key using a stool and a box. The child was already standing on the potted plant to get a better view over the balcony railing.
The older child can reach it anyway and often forgets the key in the handle...
The older child can reach it anyway and often forgets the key in the handle...
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