ᐅ Floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor without a parapet or knee wall

Created on: 9 Jun 2021 19:27
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Reltaw2021
Hello everyone!

I have been following the forum for a while, but now I have some current questions that I haven’t found answers to yet, so I have become a more active member.
I would like to avoid using guard rails on the lower edge of floor-to-ceiling windows upstairs to eliminate the risk of falling from the window sill.
Therefore, I plan to implement the following alternative measures:

1. Use safety glass corresponding to category A *

2. Lockable with a key, with the key stored elsewhere

3. Visible indicators on the window such as blinds or frosted glass stickers

4. Restrict access by placing furniture or plants in front of the windows

Has anyone here already received official building approval for something like this?

I would also be willing to remove the window handles if it came down to it.

For those who haven’t figured it out yet—I’m not a fan of French balconies, transoms, or divided windows.

Perhaps someone has done something similar with windows that are basically fixed?

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Retlaw

* DIN 18008-4
Schimi179110 Jun 2021 07:02
Tarnari schrieb:

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just fixed glazing.
That always causes problems with cleaning, doesn’t it? Also, the roller shutters can no longer be cleaned, no matter how often it's needed.
tomtom7910 Jun 2021 07:05
Why would anyone want that—just for the look or what?

You can have it included in the building permit / planning permission and then simply not build it. In our new development area, many only installed them years later.
I hardly think anyone will come to check.
Legally, if something happens, you’re responsible.
K1300S10 Jun 2021 07:22
tomtom79 schrieb:

You could have them included in the building permit or planning permission drawings and simply choose not to install them right away. Many in our new development only added them years later. I hardly think anyone will come to check.

I wouldn’t bet on that. Since neither (transparent) French balconies nor fixed lower glass panels (which we currently have) appealed to us, we chose a compromise and planned windows that are not full floor-to-ceiling but have a sill height of about 40 cm (16 inches). Visually, we like it, the building authority is satisfied, and it’s also easy to clean.
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driver55
10 Jun 2021 07:24
Reltaw2021 schrieb:

They are relatively expensive considering the deterioration of the appearance and slightly reduce the view.
Do you always lie on the floor to look out the window?
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driver55
10 Jun 2021 07:28
K1300S schrieb:

but planned with a parapet of about 40 cm (16 inches). Visually we think it looks good, and the building authority is satisfied,
A parapet of 40 cm (16 inches)? That must be questioned!
i_b_n_a_n10 Jun 2021 07:31
When it comes to aesthetics: There are venetian blind systems that integrate an almost invisible glass pane as a fall protection measure.