Hello,
so, similar to our previous single-family house project, we are now starting the planning for the multi-family house. The title was deliberately chosen to be the same as the single-family house thread.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/baubericht-einfamilienhaus-1200-eur-m.35362/
So far, we have purchased an old carpentry workshop that will be demolished.
On February 16th, the building inquiry already submitted will be discussed by the municipal council. The question concerns the development with 3 full floors and a flat roof.
At first, I found a floor plan that I quite like and whose dimensions almost fit perfectly.
I’m still unsure about the elevator and whether it’s really worth the $30,000 (offer from Kone). Possibly, we will prepare the shaft for later installation if accessibility becomes necessary. The toilets would be removed to save costs.
so, similar to our previous single-family house project, we are now starting the planning for the multi-family house. The title was deliberately chosen to be the same as the single-family house thread.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/baubericht-einfamilienhaus-1200-eur-m.35362/
So far, we have purchased an old carpentry workshop that will be demolished.
On February 16th, the building inquiry already submitted will be discussed by the municipal council. The question concerns the development with 3 full floors and a flat roof.
At first, I found a floor plan that I quite like and whose dimensions almost fit perfectly.
I’m still unsure about the elevator and whether it’s really worth the $30,000 (offer from Kone). Possibly, we will prepare the shaft for later installation if accessibility becomes necessary. The toilets would be removed to save costs.
hanghaus2000 schrieb:
Why not?
Make the lower flat roofs a bit steeper, then you can fit one more flat roof.
An attic ceiling height of 2.30 m (7 ft 7 in) won’t work. In my opinion, the minimum headroom for living spaces should be 2.40 m (7 ft 10 in), preferably higher.
Is house number 67a a flat roof?
I thought you were also considering a flat roof. I would set the third floor back a bit, like the mansard roof in the picture, about 1 to 2 meters (3 to 6 feet). This is how it’s usually done here in the municipality where flat roofs have recently been permitted. The added benefit is that you’ll have fewer issues with setback requirements and wall heights. The idea with the parking spaces sounds good.
The 2.3 m (7 ft 7 in) ceiling height is the maximum possible if it’s not supposed to be a full floor.
Are you referring to the 60A? That is a very shallow shed roof. But the municipality definitely does not want a flat roof.
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hanghaus200031 May 2021 14:40hegi___ schrieb:
The idea with the parking spaces is a good one.
The 2.3m (7.5 ft) ceiling height is the maximum possible if it is not supposed to be a full story.
Do you mean the 60A? That is a very flat shed roof. But the municipality definitely does not want a flat roof.You should double-check the ceiling height. As far as I know, whether it counts as a full story depends on a certain usable height.
You can also set back the attic floor with a flat roof far enough to comply with the formula. How did the person with the blue house manage to get three full stories?
hegi___ schrieb:
But the municipality absolutely doesn’t want a flat roof. Has it been explicitly excluded in the zoning plan / building regulations? Building law isn’t a matter of personal preference for the building authority. Often it’s just a few degrees that distinguish a shed roof from a flat roof.
Do as I already suggested and build a pseudo-mansard roof. If the recessed top floor would count as a full story, then accumulate storage rooms there with a maximum ceiling height of 230cm (7.5 feet).
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11ant schrieb:
Has this been ruled out in the zoning plan / building regulations? Building law is not a matter of choice for the building authority. Often it is only a few degrees that distinguish a shed roof from a flat roof.There isn’t one. They unofficially say it’s possible but with fewer floors. Overall, I think I can maximize the living area with a gable roof.11ant schrieb:
As I already suggested, build a pseudo-mansard roof. If the recessed top floor counts as a full floor with this, then accumulate storage rooms there with a maximum room height of 230cm (90 inches).But what exactly does that gain me if I can already achieve three-quarters of the first floor area with a normal gable roof, possibly with dormers? It feels like I could get a similar living area more cheaply with a pure gable roof than with a mansard roof plus flat roof.For the storage rooms, I would do a partial basement.
hegi___ schrieb:
For the storage rooms, I would suggest a partial basement.If you ask me, that’s economically nonsensical. Partial basements intended for utility space can easily end up costing more per square meter than full residential basements. So in terms of construction costs, I think that would kill your return on investment. You’d probably be more efficient arranging these spaces above ground, as they do in Switzerland.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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