ᐅ Building a Pool at the Same Time as the House - Your Opinions?
Created on: 16 May 2021 10:53
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majuhenema
Dear community,
Since December 2020, we have been planning our house and reached an agreement with a provider in April. See:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/erste-grundrissplanung-auf-karopapier-hang-keller-2-geschosse.37567/
During the planning, the topic of a pool was always in the back of our minds and was discussed several times. Our initial feeling was "let’s build it right away," which over weeks and months shifted to "preparation now and realization later" for the time being. Now our direction is changing again, and we are researching construction and maintenance costs. Since it is difficult to assess the reliability of the various sources, or they do not align with our idea, we would very much appreciate feedback from the community here.
We are looking at a pool size of 8 x 4 meters (26 x 13 feet) without a counter-current system but with an electric cover. We are not entirely sure about pool heating. The technical room is located in the basement near where the pool will be installed.
We keep telling ourselves that building the pool now would be much cheaper because pool and house work could run in parallel, creating synergy effects (economic and legal aspects included 😉 ) regarding earthworks, foundation, crane use, and technology.
Our questions are:
1. In general: What do you consider to be the best type of pool for our project? We know the pros and cons of various types but cannot come to a final conclusion.
2. How much would you estimate the pure construction costs of your “preferred option” under the above conditions?
3. How large do you estimate the price difference between “building now” and “doing it in xx years” to be?
Thank you. 🙂
Since December 2020, we have been planning our house and reached an agreement with a provider in April. See:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/erste-grundrissplanung-auf-karopapier-hang-keller-2-geschosse.37567/
During the planning, the topic of a pool was always in the back of our minds and was discussed several times. Our initial feeling was "let’s build it right away," which over weeks and months shifted to "preparation now and realization later" for the time being. Now our direction is changing again, and we are researching construction and maintenance costs. Since it is difficult to assess the reliability of the various sources, or they do not align with our idea, we would very much appreciate feedback from the community here.
We are looking at a pool size of 8 x 4 meters (26 x 13 feet) without a counter-current system but with an electric cover. We are not entirely sure about pool heating. The technical room is located in the basement near where the pool will be installed.
We keep telling ourselves that building the pool now would be much cheaper because pool and house work could run in parallel, creating synergy effects (economic and legal aspects included 😉 ) regarding earthworks, foundation, crane use, and technology.
Our questions are:
1. In general: What do you consider to be the best type of pool for our project? We know the pros and cons of various types but cannot come to a final conclusion.
2. How much would you estimate the pure construction costs of your “preferred option” under the above conditions?
3. How large do you estimate the price difference between “building now” and “doing it in xx years” to be?
Thank you. 🙂
Our experience shows that no construction company likes an additional hole (pool) in the building area.
They prefer to have clear access, scaffolding, material storage, debris disposal, and space for deliveries all to themselves.
Once the house is built and the garden is disrupted, the landscaper should refill, level, and remove excess soil from the garden.
This professional is your go-to for the pool, as the construction access road for deliveries will still be available.
In the case of a pool behind the house, the pool should already be delivered beforehand, but the installation is usually handled by the landscape gardener or pool builder.
They prefer to have clear access, scaffolding, material storage, debris disposal, and space for deliveries all to themselves.
Once the house is built and the garden is disrupted, the landscaper should refill, level, and remove excess soil from the garden.
This professional is your go-to for the pool, as the construction access road for deliveries will still be available.
In the case of a pool behind the house, the pool should already be delivered beforehand, but the installation is usually handled by the landscape gardener or pool builder.
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majuhenema17 May 2021 11:18Thank you for the feedback!
Would you be so kind as to briefly explain your reasons?
Thanks for your input. The 8x4m (26x13 feet) is only meant as a guideline. I forgot to mention "approximately" in my initial post. 8x3m (26x10 feet) would definitely also fit well.
i_b_n_a_n schrieb:
Still: I faced the same decision and decided against it (but for different reasons)
Would you be so kind as to briefly explain your reasons?
tomtom79 schrieb:
Why 8x4? I would prefer 8x3 or even longer instead of wider. At 4 meters (13 feet), the roof covering will probably become more expensive again.
Thanks for your input. The 8x4m (26x13 feet) is only meant as a guideline. I forgot to mention "approximately" in my initial post. 8x3m (26x10 feet) would definitely also fit well.
We experienced this directly, although the excavation was done in the final level (EL) while interior work on the house was still ongoing, towards the end. The slab was also poured at the final level (EL), with the concrete ordered and delivered using a boom truck.
Can you also pour concrete at the final level (EL)?
Regarding costs, you have already heard a rough estimate, but I find it quite high depending on what kind of pool you want and what landscaping (GaLa) work will be involved. Others here might give you similar figures, maybe we are an exception—I’m not sure. Just so you have an idea:
We spent about 10,000 (currency) for our polypropylene pool with stairs, measuring 7x3 m (23x10 ft), including all technical equipment (which is not housed in a pit but in the nearby garden shed), as well as the above-mentioned work, and we are happy with it.
Can you also pour concrete at the final level (EL)?
Regarding costs, you have already heard a rough estimate, but I find it quite high depending on what kind of pool you want and what landscaping (GaLa) work will be involved. Others here might give you similar figures, maybe we are an exception—I’m not sure. Just so you have an idea:
We spent about 10,000 (currency) for our polypropylene pool with stairs, measuring 7x3 m (23x10 ft), including all technical equipment (which is not housed in a pit but in the nearby garden shed), as well as the above-mentioned work, and we are happy with it.
majuhenema schrieb:
... Would you be so kind as to briefly explain your reasons?Certainly. Within the family, we have discussed the topic of the pool extensively. The main concern is situations where I cannot guarantee that a supervisor is always present whenever the pool is open, especially when my grandchildren, aged 1 to 5 years, are around. For example, if I need to quickly use the restroom, etc. It only takes about two minutes for a child to drown in some cases. At the moment, I am not willing to take that risk. As soon as the youngest can swim, I will start building the pool. It will be positioned towards the front of the property, so I won’t need to redo everything completely. Necessary cables (or conduit) and pipes have already been planned.Nemesis schrieb:
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We spent around 10,000 on our polypropylene pool with stairs, measuring 7x3m (23x10 feet), including the equipment (which is not housed in a pit but in the garden shed next door) as well as the above-mentioned work, and we’re happy with it.Do you perhaps have some pictures and more information? My budget for a smaller pool, about 3.5x2.5x1.6m (11.5x8x5.25 feet)—more of an exercise pool 😎—is currently around 15,000 with a lot of DIY effort. The pool is going to be heated (using approximately 1.6 to 2.4 kWp photovoltaic system plus a small heat pump). It also needs to be covered with a movable insulated wooden deck...i_b_n_a_n schrieb:
further information?What exactly do you need?I will provide the photo later.
The purchase of the heat pump is not very expensive, but depending on usage, the operating costs can be significant. The required coverage will probably cost about the same as your pool itself 😉
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