Hello,
I’ve been following this forum for a while and have already gathered some interesting information. Today, I’d like to kindly ask for your experiences and expertise 🙂
We are a young family and are fortunate to be able to build our own home. The floor plan for our dream house is basically tailored perfectly to our needs, but the access to the pantry/storage room is causing us some headaches.
Our original plan was to hide the entrance within the kitchen cabinetry, so you would enter the pantry through the kitchen units. However, this passage needs to be 80 cm (31 inches) wide; otherwise, we won’t be able to get our freezer in and out. One kitchen builder doesn’t see a problem with this, while another says the door will sag over time and recommended two 40 cm (16 inch) doors instead. Personally, I don’t find that visually appealing or practical, having to open two doors all the time.
Also, I’m not sure if this door—which won’t fully close tight—would let light through or how it would handle possible odors from the yellow bag trash bin. The yellow bag could of course be taken out to the garage, but you have to consider everything, right? 😉
I’ve now tried out a few alternatives: one without a wall projection and with the door at the front, one with a wall projection and the door at the front, and one in the same place as originally planned but with a standard interior door. I’m attaching pictures of the current floor plan and my alternatives made with SweetHome3D. We don’t want an entrance to the pantry from the hallway since groceries have to be carried to the fridge anyway 😉
What do you think would make sense? How have you solved similar issues?
Looking forward to your creative input
Best regards,
Jessica
I’ve been following this forum for a while and have already gathered some interesting information. Today, I’d like to kindly ask for your experiences and expertise 🙂
We are a young family and are fortunate to be able to build our own home. The floor plan for our dream house is basically tailored perfectly to our needs, but the access to the pantry/storage room is causing us some headaches.
Our original plan was to hide the entrance within the kitchen cabinetry, so you would enter the pantry through the kitchen units. However, this passage needs to be 80 cm (31 inches) wide; otherwise, we won’t be able to get our freezer in and out. One kitchen builder doesn’t see a problem with this, while another says the door will sag over time and recommended two 40 cm (16 inch) doors instead. Personally, I don’t find that visually appealing or practical, having to open two doors all the time.
Also, I’m not sure if this door—which won’t fully close tight—would let light through or how it would handle possible odors from the yellow bag trash bin. The yellow bag could of course be taken out to the garage, but you have to consider everything, right? 😉
I’ve now tried out a few alternatives: one without a wall projection and with the door at the front, one with a wall projection and the door at the front, and one in the same place as originally planned but with a standard interior door. I’m attaching pictures of the current floor plan and my alternatives made with SweetHome3D. We don’t want an entrance to the pantry from the hallway since groceries have to be carried to the fridge anyway 😉
What do you think would make sense? How have you solved similar issues?
Looking forward to your creative input
Best regards,
Jessica
I would hide the door in the kitchen as planned because I find it the most elegant solution. However, I would use only a 600mm (24 inch) door—it just looks more elegant—and install a standard interior door toward the entrance (near the front door). This way, you have a direct, short path to the kitchen with your groceries and can get the freezer through there. If there isn’t enough space, you can always block the door later. I don’t know the exterior view, but another option would be to install an 800mm (31.5 inch) wide window and slide the freezer through that.
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hampshire27 Apr 2021 11:37Integrating the door into the kitchen cabinetry is an attractive but costly detail. Of course, there are 80 cm (32 inch) doors that don’t sag (in a pinch, you can add a roller underneath :cool 🙂.
Access through the hallway is a good option to preserve storage space in the kitchen, as a door in the not exactly large kitchen takes up a lot of room. As a detail, I suggest stocking drinks and some basic groceries from the pantry using a Kanban system, with access from the kitchen; this also gives you an efficient logistics concept.
For inspiration: I find the "invisible doors" by Linvisible especially brilliant.
Access through the hallway is a good option to preserve storage space in the kitchen, as a door in the not exactly large kitchen takes up a lot of room. As a detail, I suggest stocking drinks and some basic groceries from the pantry using a Kanban system, with access from the kitchen; this also gives you an efficient logistics concept.
For inspiration: I find the "invisible doors" by Linvisible especially brilliant.
11ant schrieb:
Most stories here about completely overturned and flipped designs start with exactly such an introduction, basically saying "actually everything is perfect." Do you have the courage to throw the entire house to the wolfish discussants?Of course, I would also share our floor plan for discussion, but I’m not sure about the legal aspects of posting the full plans online. I want to avoid any issues.So far, I haven’t felt that the kitchen is small or that there is a lack of storage space.
The utility room will store kitchen appliances that are not used daily, like the air fryer, baking storage, etc. Also, the vacuum cleaner, the freezer, some tools that are needed from time to time, and shopping baskets. We currently have a small utility room, and I really like being able to keep these items out of sight. It’s also a convenient place to quickly hide large boxes and wrapping paper when guests arrive. The wall to the pantry is adjustable, so it could be moved if needed.
We don’t want a breakfast bar or seating area there. For me, that space is simply an additional work surface for prepping food and baking cookies with the children.
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hampshire27 Apr 2021 15:15Thank you for explaining how you plan to use the space. This makes things much clearer.
Eliminating the door would create significant extra room for storing less frequently used kitchen appliances. For everything else (except the chest freezer), a storage room or cabinet solution in a hallway is more practical – do you really want to walk through the kitchen every time you need the vacuum cleaner or some tools? That leaves the chest freezer – a typical basement or garage appliance – as long as you have some freezer space within the kitchen refrigerator.
Eliminating the door would create significant extra room for storing less frequently used kitchen appliances. For everything else (except the chest freezer), a storage room or cabinet solution in a hallway is more practical – do you really want to walk through the kitchen every time you need the vacuum cleaner or some tools? That leaves the chest freezer – a typical basement or garage appliance – as long as you have some freezer space within the kitchen refrigerator.
hampshire schrieb:
Thanks for explaining how you plan to use the space. That makes things much clearer.
Removing the door would free up a lot of room to store the less frequently used appliances in the kitchen. For everything else (except the chest freezer), a storage room or cupboard solution in a hallway is more practical—do you really want to walk through the kitchen every time you need the vacuum cleaner or some tools? The chest freezer remains a typical basement or garage appliance—assuming you also have some freezing space in the main kitchen fridge. So your solution would be to completely eliminate the pantry and use that space for the kitchen? That would create a huge room and probably make the kitchen very expensive. I’ll give more thought to exactly what needs to go there.
Here is another idea: This way, you would have just as many tall cabinets as before (in the hallway for coats, vacuum cleaner, and such) and still have a spacious, great kitchen. On both sides of the kitchen counter, there would be cabinets with a depth of 120cm (47 inches). I would also widen the kitchen windows. That odd small recess behind the entrance vestibule door (only visible in the 3D images) I would add to the hallway by moving the door.
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