ᐅ Experiences with Building a Shell House on a Plot of Land
Created on: 27 Apr 2021 17:34
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johbis231027 Apr 2021 17:34Dear forum members,
I am new here and impressed by the many very helpful posts. My partner and I might have the opportunity to acquire a building plot owned by a construction company. The condition for acquiring the plot is that you build a shell house in solid construction with this company. The shell house is custom-designed and includes the basic structure with foundation slab, windows, insulation, exterior rendering, utility connections for water and electricity, etc. Trades such as heating, interior doors, screed, staircase, flooring, bathroom, and interior finishing are not included. We would need to complete these after the shell house is finished. As an approximate price indication, they mentioned 1,300 - 1,600 per square meter (10.8 - 14.9 per square foot) of living space for the shell house. For the interior finishing, which is not included, they estimate €120,000 - €150,000 on our side for about 180m2 (1,938 sq ft) of living space.
Our questions: Has anyone had experience with such a concept—shell house/shell construction by a company versus organizing the interior finishing yourself? How was your experience? We are somewhat skeptical since it is not a full turnkey solution and the overall cost estimation seems difficult. What are your thoughts?
Additionally, we would need a second designer or architect because we are unable to coordinate the interior finishing professionally or time-wise ourselves. How have you handled this in similar situations?
Many thanks in advance for your feedback!!!!!!
I am new here and impressed by the many very helpful posts. My partner and I might have the opportunity to acquire a building plot owned by a construction company. The condition for acquiring the plot is that you build a shell house in solid construction with this company. The shell house is custom-designed and includes the basic structure with foundation slab, windows, insulation, exterior rendering, utility connections for water and electricity, etc. Trades such as heating, interior doors, screed, staircase, flooring, bathroom, and interior finishing are not included. We would need to complete these after the shell house is finished. As an approximate price indication, they mentioned 1,300 - 1,600 per square meter (10.8 - 14.9 per square foot) of living space for the shell house. For the interior finishing, which is not included, they estimate €120,000 - €150,000 on our side for about 180m2 (1,938 sq ft) of living space.
Our questions: Has anyone had experience with such a concept—shell house/shell construction by a company versus organizing the interior finishing yourself? How was your experience? We are somewhat skeptical since it is not a full turnkey solution and the overall cost estimation seems difficult. What are your thoughts?
Additionally, we would need a second designer or architect because we are unable to coordinate the interior finishing professionally or time-wise ourselves. How have you handled this in similar situations?
Many thanks in advance for your feedback!!!!!!
johbis2310 schrieb:
My girlfriend and I might have the opportunity to buy a building plot that belongs to a construction company. The condition to acquire the plot is to build a shell house with the company using solid construction methods. Does the company really own it? The keyword "speculative sale" in the search might help clarify this.
johbis2310 schrieb:
For the interior finishing, which is not included, they assume costs of €120,000 to €150,000 on our side for 180m2 (1,940 sq ft) of living space. 180m2 (1,940 sq ft) of living space is rather above average for shell houses.
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johbis2310 schrieb:
which belongs to a construction company.More likely a tied selling arrangement?! Massa house?I bought a house roughly in the described condition. It wasn’t specifically labeled as a "shell house," but it was offered in that state. The seller would have completed the construction if I had commissioned them to do so.
I hired a construction manager who coordinated and supervised the completion. He arranged the contractors, oversaw the construction, reviewed the invoices...
In the end, it cost more than originally estimated—about 1000 €/m² (approximately $93 per ft²), just to give a figure. This was standard, without any special extras.
A layperson will need someone to supervise the construction on behalf of the homeowner anyway. “Turnkey” solutions sound good, but the construction manager provided by the contractor works for the contractor!
I hired a construction manager who coordinated and supervised the completion. He arranged the contractors, oversaw the construction, reviewed the invoices...
In the end, it cost more than originally estimated—about 1000 €/m² (approximately $93 per ft²), just to give a figure. This was standard, without any special extras.
A layperson will need someone to supervise the construction on behalf of the homeowner anyway. “Turnkey” solutions sound good, but the construction manager provided by the contractor works for the contractor!
Altai schrieb:
"Everything from a single source," yes, but the site manager provided by the contractor works for the company! That is the purpose of a site manager—to oversee the construction process.
They are not an expert who will solve all your problems.
@TE: Why not let the home builder complete the construction? They probably offer the various trades, don’t they?
ypg schrieb:
That is the purpose of a construction manager: to oversee the house building process.
They are not an expert who rescues you from problems. There are two types of construction managers: the construction manager (architect / expert) who doesn’t need to rush to fix issues because they actively and proactively ensure construction follows the plans; and the "construction manager" (as an employee of the general contractor), who, in a construction style based on "drywall instead of detailed planning," manages the chaos between their own team and subcontractors so that defects only appear through the finishing compound after the warranty period expires. A general contractor’s construction manager is almost as useful for the client as hiring bank robbers at an armored car company. Their industry knowledge is not second-rate – it’s just that the story they tell sounds different.
ypg schrieb:
Why not have the self-builder finish the construction? They surely offer the trades? Not quite – offering only the shell construction (plus) is not just a niche; it’s also a fairly profitable business model.
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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