ᐅ Concrete house without additional insulation – monolithic

Created on: 13 Dec 2016 16:00
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sichtbeton82
Concrete House Without Additional Insulation – Monolithic

Hello everyone,

We are planning to build on a sloped plot of land (18m (59 feet) * 70m (230 feet)). The project is a single-family house over two levels (basement and ground floor) with about 200 sqm (2,153 sqft), plus an approximately 100 sqm (1,076 sqft) secondary apartment in the attic. The building will face almost 100% south.

We have visited model homes in Bad Vilbel. However, due to the “extreme” slope of the site (combined with the narrow plot), we decided to work with an architect. The initial floor plan is already available.

My question is specifically about the construction method. We prefer a house with exposed concrete. Both outside and mostly inside, the concrete should remain uncovered. For example, the living, dining, and kitchen areas would only have a wooden floor, while the walls and ceilings remain concrete. On the other hand, the children’s rooms would be plastered or wallpapered.

One proposed option for the exterior walls is as follows: concrete / insulation / concrete. An alternative is a monolithic concrete wall made of lightweight concrete that contains expanded clay pellets to improve thermal insulation and heat storage. These walls are quite thick (50–60 cm (20–24 inches)). Searching online, you find related terms such as insulated concrete, Liapor concrete, lightweight concrete, etc.

For the exterior walls in some single-family house projects, the following materials were used:

a) Liapor lightweight concrete LC8/9 with a bulk density class D1.2 and exposure classes XC4, XF1 / wall thickness 50 cm (20 inches) / U-value 0.68 W/m²K

b) Liapor lightweight concrete LC8/9 with bulk density class D1.1 and exposure classes XC4, XF1 / wall thickness 50 cm (20 inches)

This house was also featured on TV (Stefanie and Boris Alexy in Bad Kohlgrub)

c) Liapor insulated concrete with aggregate size 0/8 millimeters (0/0.3 inches) with F3 4/8 millimeters (0.15/0.3 inches) and Liaver expanded glass 1–4 millimeters (0.04/0.15 inches) / wall thickness 45 cm (18 inches) / formwork work completed in four days / Lambda 0.32 W/mK

(Urs Sigrist “maison art” in St. Erhard)

What I cannot find are the costs associated with this type of construction. I hope this is not a bad sign J.

What kind of costs should be expected? As a layperson, this seems like a fairly affordable method: quick formwork, no additional insulation, no plastering or cladding required on the exterior, and partially no plastering, wallpapering, or painting needed indoors on walls or ceilings.

Thank you very much!
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alegend
18 Jan 2017 13:05
... That would interest me as well
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Iktinos
18 Jan 2017 18:33
@repentless

I would like to learn more about your - somewhat unusual - house construction; also about any additional links. Could we possibly continue our conversation via regular email?
repentless18 Jan 2017 20:50
sichtbeton82 schrieb:
Many thanks for the detailed answer and the tip about the information sheet from betonsuisse!
Can you specify the construction costs per m² (square meter) in your case?
Best regards
alegend schrieb:
... I’m also interested in that.

So, the pure shell construction (no basement) with about 85% concrete and 15% brickwork cost around 715 EUR/m² (square meter). The house has a flat roof made of concrete. However, the structural design is quite challenging (a kind of floating bungalow), which is why a lot of reinforcing steel was used. This is relatively expensive and would not have as much impact in standard structural designs.

Broken down further, of the 715 EUR about:
45% labor costs
15% steel
15% concrete
5% bricks
20% for other items such as insulation/waterproofing where the structure contacts the ground (sloped site), formwork accessories, chimney, miscellaneous building materials, sewer connections (pipes), crane, portable toilet, etc.

Iktinos schrieb:
@repentless

I would like to learn more about your rather unusual house construction; also additional links. Could we possibly move our conversation to regular email communication?

Gladly. The best would be via private messages here on the forum, or gladly also in this thread (if it fits the topic).
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Iktinos
18 Jan 2017 21:34
repentless schrieb:

Sure. It’s best via private messages here on the forum.
No, I’d prefer not to; I like to keep it private. But thanks.
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sichtbeton82
25 Jan 2017 10:16
Thanks again for the information!
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Steffen_S
26 Apr 2021 11:30
@repentless
I know I’m bringing an old thread back, but I’m currently interested in building with lightweight concrete (Liapor precast walls) and would like to learn more. Around €750 per square meter for the shell sounds great—if that price is still realistic in 2021. €1,000 would also be acceptable.

Could you please contact me privately? Unfortunately, I’m not able to start a conversation yet 🙁 Thanks!