Hello everyone,
finally, we have reached an important step… the plot is signed for.
We want to build with an architect and already have some ideas about what we like and what we don’t.
We definitely want to give the architect the opportunity to apply their expertise regarding the floor plan… maybe they can convince us.
But if not, we are currently (almost) quite happy with this self-drawn floor plan.
A few key facts…
Plot size: 660 sqm (about 7100 sq ft), floor area ratio 0.4, no slope, approximately 26m x 25m (85 ft x 82 ft)
Longest building side allowed: max. 15m (about 49 ft)
L-shaped bungalow with covered terrace (southwest side)
We want to build with a basement. This should have windows with natural daylight behind the garage on the east side. There will be 2–3 living rooms down there (playroom, hobby room, later for the kids or grandparents if necessary).
The roof will not be converted into a living space — 20-22° (degrees) pitch, hip roof, for aesthetic reasons.
We know that a basement is more expensive than a second floor, etc. The budget is roughly 650,000–700,000 (currency).
Utility room, laundry room, sauna, etc. will all be located in the basement since there is enough space. 🙂
Now to the floor plan:
We like an open design with a large entrance area.
What we like about this floor plan:
Children’s area separated from parents
Connection from the garage with access to the storage room and basement
Access from kitchen and living room to the terrace possible
Master bedroom with direct view of the garden on the southeast side (in summer the shutters are closed anyway)
Children’s rooms with windows facing west, slightly southwest.
Open questions…
Are the children’s rooms too narrow at almost 3m (about 10 ft)?
Is the living room too narrow at almost 4.5m (about 15 ft)?
The L-shape at the terrace is about 3m (10 ft) deep — here we could possibly adjust a bit to enlarge the children’s rooms.
My wife doesn’t like that the kitchen is visible directly from the entrance area.
(I prefer the kitchen visibility over the living room couch). What do you think is better or worse?
The kitchen window is on the south side, possibly too much sun… maybe we should add an awning if needed.
I can’t fit a second toilet elsewhere without making the children’s rooms even smaller… so it will remain a guest toilet for the parents.
Is a door between the entrance area and the living area for a windbreak useful, or unnecessary? (We have underfloor heating.)
(Maybe a hidden interior door, but I’m unsure what happens if it gets damaged.)
The floor area ratio will be tight… 15m x 15m = 225 sqm (about 11,200 sq ft) + garage + driveway… we might need to reduce the width a bit.
660 sqm x 0.4 = 264 sqm (about 2,840 sq ft).
I have seen many floor plans here… wishes and practicality have to match somewhere.
I’m really curious about the experts’ opinions…
Is it rubbish or usable?
Thanks
finally, we have reached an important step… the plot is signed for.
We want to build with an architect and already have some ideas about what we like and what we don’t.
We definitely want to give the architect the opportunity to apply their expertise regarding the floor plan… maybe they can convince us.
But if not, we are currently (almost) quite happy with this self-drawn floor plan.
A few key facts…
Plot size: 660 sqm (about 7100 sq ft), floor area ratio 0.4, no slope, approximately 26m x 25m (85 ft x 82 ft)
Longest building side allowed: max. 15m (about 49 ft)
L-shaped bungalow with covered terrace (southwest side)
We want to build with a basement. This should have windows with natural daylight behind the garage on the east side. There will be 2–3 living rooms down there (playroom, hobby room, later for the kids or grandparents if necessary).
The roof will not be converted into a living space — 20-22° (degrees) pitch, hip roof, for aesthetic reasons.
We know that a basement is more expensive than a second floor, etc. The budget is roughly 650,000–700,000 (currency).
Utility room, laundry room, sauna, etc. will all be located in the basement since there is enough space. 🙂
Now to the floor plan:
We like an open design with a large entrance area.
What we like about this floor plan:
Children’s area separated from parents
Connection from the garage with access to the storage room and basement
Access from kitchen and living room to the terrace possible
Master bedroom with direct view of the garden on the southeast side (in summer the shutters are closed anyway)
Children’s rooms with windows facing west, slightly southwest.
Open questions…
Are the children’s rooms too narrow at almost 3m (about 10 ft)?
Is the living room too narrow at almost 4.5m (about 15 ft)?
The L-shape at the terrace is about 3m (10 ft) deep — here we could possibly adjust a bit to enlarge the children’s rooms.
My wife doesn’t like that the kitchen is visible directly from the entrance area.
(I prefer the kitchen visibility over the living room couch). What do you think is better or worse?
The kitchen window is on the south side, possibly too much sun… maybe we should add an awning if needed.
I can’t fit a second toilet elsewhere without making the children’s rooms even smaller… so it will remain a guest toilet for the parents.
Is a door between the entrance area and the living area for a windbreak useful, or unnecessary? (We have underfloor heating.)
(Maybe a hidden interior door, but I’m unsure what happens if it gets damaged.)
The floor area ratio will be tight… 15m x 15m = 225 sqm (about 11,200 sq ft) + garage + driveway… we might need to reduce the width a bit.
660 sqm x 0.4 = 264 sqm (about 2,840 sq ft).
I have seen many floor plans here… wishes and practicality have to match somewhere.
I’m really curious about the experts’ opinions…
Is it rubbish or usable?
Thanks
I
Iotafreak15 Apr 2021 15:51The two plots were combined into one, resulting in an area of 660 m² (7100 sq ft).
vonBYnachSH15 Apr 2021 16:08Just try searching online for “bungalow 2 kids’ bedrooms,” and you’ll immediately find many floor plans that are much better designed. Sometimes there’s no way around it—you just have to admit that professionals need to be involved. I’m definitely not one, and I wouldn’t trust myself with something like that either. But I can tell that this won’t work (sorry, no offense intended).
Thanks for the information. The house plans are always shown oriented to the “north,” which you have to imagine, and some measurements are barely readable. It’s not clear where the floor-to-ceiling windows are located, and window placements in the room corners are planned in general. I recommend having a professional take a look.
Where is the basement? I still don’t understand its purpose. There is also no drawing showing necessary light wells, etc.
And since there is no visible development from the initial floor plan, what are you expecting?
Here are a few floor plans that I like. The entrance is always oriented toward the top of the plan = north, all without a basement.
Hauscompagnie
eskjhus … I would swap the parents’ and children’s areas and rearrange the entire section a bit. Children’s rooms facing south, parents’ rooms facing north, integrate a library.
Rotated and mirrored Danwood 171
Extravagant … Elk atrium 😉
And here’s one of my older drafts again, although now I would align the bedroom wall flush at the bottom. Room 1 on the left is the garage … plenty of storage space in the hallway.
Where is the basement? I still don’t understand its purpose. There is also no drawing showing necessary light wells, etc.
And since there is no visible development from the initial floor plan, what are you expecting?
Here are a few floor plans that I like. The entrance is always oriented toward the top of the plan = north, all without a basement.
Hauscompagnie
eskjhus … I would swap the parents’ and children’s areas and rearrange the entire section a bit. Children’s rooms facing south, parents’ rooms facing north, integrate a library.
Rotated and mirrored Danwood 171
Extravagant … Elk atrium 😉
And here’s one of my older drafts again, although now I would align the bedroom wall flush at the bottom. Room 1 on the left is the garage … plenty of storage space in the hallway.
I
Iotafreak15 Apr 2021 17:12kbt09 schrieb:
3 posts for the information, ... the house is always shown as if you have to imagine the "north," some dimensions are hardly readable, not clear where the floor-to-ceiling windows are ... windows planned right into the room corners. Let a professional take a look.
Where is the basement? I still don’t know what it’s for. There isn’t even a drawing that takes the necessary light wells into account, etc.
And since there is no development visible from the first floor plan, what are you expecting?
Here are a few floor plans that I quite like, with the entrance always oriented toward the top of the plan = north, all without a basement.
HouseCompany
eskjhus ... here I would swap the parents’ and kids’ areas and divide the whole space differently. Kids facing south, parents facing north, integrate a library
Rotated and mirrored Danwood 171
Extravagant ... Elk atrium 😉
And here’s one of my older designs, where I would now make the bedroom wall flush at the bottom. Room 1 on the left is the garage ... lots of storage space in the hallway.
Thanks for taking the time...
I didn’t think I needed to rewrite everything about the basement and why...
The basement will be adapted to the ground floor, meaning once the floor plan is set, we move on to the basement... that’s priority 2.
Why should I design the floor plan now if the ground floor isn’t finalized yet... we are very flexible there.
Your floor plans might be good, but none match our wishes...
I also understand that the floor plan should be as optimal and practical as possible to avoid wasting unnecessary space = costs...
Our MAIN priority is to realize our wishes, so we try to put them on paper and receive feedback from experienced people pointing out mistakes. Opinions like: you have no sense of space, the entrance area is too large, etc., don’t help me at all.
Again, it’s not about cost-optimizing everything but rather about following our wishes.
A large entrance area,
No small dark corridors,
Large windows,
Reasonably sized rooms,
Separate kids’ and parents’ areas,
Terrace at least approx. 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft).
My sketch is only meant to show the room layout, not all measurements exactly, and the windows are by no means finalized either... it’s just about the room arrangement.
Aside from the children’s rooms being unusually located and not directly in a zone with the bedroom and bathroom, I would like to hear more criticism to address any errors... I am very grateful for tips and not fixed on the floor plan; I have already tried other options... side entrance, etc... nothing even comes close to our ideas...
One person says ... House Vita is totally different, everything flows into one another... another says I should establish zones.....
Thanks anyway...
Iotafreak schrieb:
An opinion like: you lack spatial awareness, the entrance area is too large, etc., is not helpful to me at all.
Again, it’s not about planning everything to be cost-optimal, but according to our wishes. I’m happy to give you my bank account number. @kbt09 probably will too. If 5,000€ (about $5,400) have been paid there, you will have our full attention and a plan tailored to your wishes, starting with the basement and ending with the ground floor. If you don’t like anything, you will get 3,000€ (about $3,240) back. Deal?
Or you can go directly to an architect. Don’t be surprised if the basement depends on the overall house design. It’s supposed to be a livable basement with light wells.
Iotafreak schrieb:
I didn’t think I needed to rewrite the entire text about the basement and why again... I don’t understand what you want to do with the basement, and Yvonne already mentioned that the basement planning depends on the ground floor.
If your existing floor plan meets your requirements, I don’t understand the questions.
There have been quite a few indications of inconsistencies:
- Windows in the room corners
- Bathroom/children’s room layout
- Depth of the pantry, there isn’t even enough space to open a freezer door
- Passage room between garage and house with basement stairs
- Slanted wall in the walk-in closet… otherwise the flow between dining and living room doesn’t work, but with the slanted wall the walk-in closet can’t be used properly
- Waste of space in the hallway, which seems to be about 300 cm (10 feet) wide (numbers are hard to read)… but it’s difficult to furnish, so at least there should be storage there
and so on, and so forth.
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