Hello everyone,
finally, we have reached an important step… the plot is signed for.
We want to build with an architect and already have some ideas about what we like and what we don’t.
We definitely want to give the architect the opportunity to apply their expertise regarding the floor plan… maybe they can convince us.
But if not, we are currently (almost) quite happy with this self-drawn floor plan.
A few key facts…
Plot size: 660 sqm (about 7100 sq ft), floor area ratio 0.4, no slope, approximately 26m x 25m (85 ft x 82 ft)
Longest building side allowed: max. 15m (about 49 ft)
L-shaped bungalow with covered terrace (southwest side)
We want to build with a basement. This should have windows with natural daylight behind the garage on the east side. There will be 2–3 living rooms down there (playroom, hobby room, later for the kids or grandparents if necessary).
The roof will not be converted into a living space — 20-22° (degrees) pitch, hip roof, for aesthetic reasons.
We know that a basement is more expensive than a second floor, etc. The budget is roughly 650,000–700,000 (currency).
Utility room, laundry room, sauna, etc. will all be located in the basement since there is enough space. 🙂
Now to the floor plan:
We like an open design with a large entrance area.
What we like about this floor plan:
Children’s area separated from parents
Connection from the garage with access to the storage room and basement
Access from kitchen and living room to the terrace possible
Master bedroom with direct view of the garden on the southeast side (in summer the shutters are closed anyway)
Children’s rooms with windows facing west, slightly southwest.
Open questions…
Are the children’s rooms too narrow at almost 3m (about 10 ft)?
Is the living room too narrow at almost 4.5m (about 15 ft)?
The L-shape at the terrace is about 3m (10 ft) deep — here we could possibly adjust a bit to enlarge the children’s rooms.
My wife doesn’t like that the kitchen is visible directly from the entrance area.
(I prefer the kitchen visibility over the living room couch). What do you think is better or worse?
The kitchen window is on the south side, possibly too much sun… maybe we should add an awning if needed.
I can’t fit a second toilet elsewhere without making the children’s rooms even smaller… so it will remain a guest toilet for the parents.
Is a door between the entrance area and the living area for a windbreak useful, or unnecessary? (We have underfloor heating.)
(Maybe a hidden interior door, but I’m unsure what happens if it gets damaged.)
The floor area ratio will be tight… 15m x 15m = 225 sqm (about 11,200 sq ft) + garage + driveway… we might need to reduce the width a bit.
660 sqm x 0.4 = 264 sqm (about 2,840 sq ft).
I have seen many floor plans here… wishes and practicality have to match somewhere.
I’m really curious about the experts’ opinions…
Is it rubbish or usable?
Thanks
finally, we have reached an important step… the plot is signed for.
We want to build with an architect and already have some ideas about what we like and what we don’t.
We definitely want to give the architect the opportunity to apply their expertise regarding the floor plan… maybe they can convince us.
But if not, we are currently (almost) quite happy with this self-drawn floor plan.
A few key facts…
Plot size: 660 sqm (about 7100 sq ft), floor area ratio 0.4, no slope, approximately 26m x 25m (85 ft x 82 ft)
Longest building side allowed: max. 15m (about 49 ft)
L-shaped bungalow with covered terrace (southwest side)
We want to build with a basement. This should have windows with natural daylight behind the garage on the east side. There will be 2–3 living rooms down there (playroom, hobby room, later for the kids or grandparents if necessary).
The roof will not be converted into a living space — 20-22° (degrees) pitch, hip roof, for aesthetic reasons.
We know that a basement is more expensive than a second floor, etc. The budget is roughly 650,000–700,000 (currency).
Utility room, laundry room, sauna, etc. will all be located in the basement since there is enough space. 🙂
Now to the floor plan:
We like an open design with a large entrance area.
What we like about this floor plan:
Children’s area separated from parents
Connection from the garage with access to the storage room and basement
Access from kitchen and living room to the terrace possible
Master bedroom with direct view of the garden on the southeast side (in summer the shutters are closed anyway)
Children’s rooms with windows facing west, slightly southwest.
Open questions…
Are the children’s rooms too narrow at almost 3m (about 10 ft)?
Is the living room too narrow at almost 4.5m (about 15 ft)?
The L-shape at the terrace is about 3m (10 ft) deep — here we could possibly adjust a bit to enlarge the children’s rooms.
My wife doesn’t like that the kitchen is visible directly from the entrance area.
(I prefer the kitchen visibility over the living room couch). What do you think is better or worse?
The kitchen window is on the south side, possibly too much sun… maybe we should add an awning if needed.
I can’t fit a second toilet elsewhere without making the children’s rooms even smaller… so it will remain a guest toilet for the parents.
Is a door between the entrance area and the living area for a windbreak useful, or unnecessary? (We have underfloor heating.)
(Maybe a hidden interior door, but I’m unsure what happens if it gets damaged.)
The floor area ratio will be tight… 15m x 15m = 225 sqm (about 11,200 sq ft) + garage + driveway… we might need to reduce the width a bit.
660 sqm x 0.4 = 264 sqm (about 2,840 sq ft).
I have seen many floor plans here… wishes and practicality have to match somewhere.
I’m really curious about the experts’ opinions…
Is it rubbish or usable?
Thanks
I
Iotafreak6 Apr 2021 16:15haydee schrieb:
I wouldn’t have recognized the Vita Haus by Weiss.
It’s great that you can combine the two plots and are allowed to build “only” a single-family home.
Is the footpath heavily used? No, according to the development plan it will remain a meadow, so no paving or anything like that. I don’t think there will be much traffic because the usual well-maintained sidewalk is on the street side in our area.
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Iotafreak6 Apr 2021 16:16Iotafreak schrieb:
It is stated in the development plan... Actually applies per residential building... But good idea, I will check again... Thanks A garage can be attached, but it must be slightly offset... not in line
This is not about costs, and no one wants to take your bungalow away from you – you are fully entitled to both.
However, you inevitably cover a lot of ground area, reducing your plot space (and 660 sq m (7,100 sq ft) is not that large), and you end up with the typical bungalow issues of large circulation areas and limited natural light inside. The basement doesn’t improve this... on the contrary: if it doesn’t work well on the main floor, how is a light well or courtyard supposed to brighten the basement interior? It will be like a cave!
How about a Bungalow 2.0: a more elongated building with a steeper pitched roof, and a sauna, relaxation room (library), etc. in the attic? Possibly with an open space above the living area. If you want an L-shape, add a glazed flat-roofed cube extending into the garden? This could serve as a terrace with a view and an exit from the sauna on top?
So, “only” 120–140 sq m (1,290–1,510 sq ft) on the ground floor, and another 40–50 sq m (430–540 sq ft) of luxury upstairs with the master bedroom and wellness area? And that would leave you with significantly more of the beautiful plot and its lovely view?
However, you inevitably cover a lot of ground area, reducing your plot space (and 660 sq m (7,100 sq ft) is not that large), and you end up with the typical bungalow issues of large circulation areas and limited natural light inside. The basement doesn’t improve this... on the contrary: if it doesn’t work well on the main floor, how is a light well or courtyard supposed to brighten the basement interior? It will be like a cave!
How about a Bungalow 2.0: a more elongated building with a steeper pitched roof, and a sauna, relaxation room (library), etc. in the attic? Possibly with an open space above the living area. If you want an L-shape, add a glazed flat-roofed cube extending into the garden? This could serve as a terrace with a view and an exit from the sauna on top?
So, “only” 120–140 sq m (1,290–1,510 sq ft) on the ground floor, and another 40–50 sq m (430–540 sq ft) of luxury upstairs with the master bedroom and wellness area? And that would leave you with significantly more of the beautiful plot and its lovely view?
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Iotafreak6 Apr 2021 16:21ypg schrieb:
The Vita house is not designed as a family home and has all the necessary utility rooms on a single level. The kitchen is well zoned. As you can also see, the bungalow has plenty of windows, making everything bright and welcoming. Essential areas like the dining space receive plenty of natural light – contrary to your plan. However, in my opinion, the Vita also has some drawbacks that could be avoided. It is not barrier-free.Thanks for the feedback...The Vita was just the inspiration, something we really liked... The windows and other features I drew in are just rough sketches... My main concern is whether the layout makes sense... But that doesn’t seem to be the case... The door sizes I marked were all done on my phone... I wanted to see if it’s possible, within the limits we are allowed, to create a 4-room bungalow of this size using this type of construction and to get your expert opinions on my layout... Thank you very much.
Is the floor plan optimizable or basically a lost cause?
Especially during the self-planning phase, always draw all rooms to scale including the existing or desired furniture. This way, you can best see where you might have personal space issues.
Will the bookshelf, shoe cabinet, or your dream sofa fit?
Many floor plans include dollhouse furniture, and the dining area fits into every camper van.
Regarding your floor plan
Bedroom: Draw in a wardrobe in the size you want. Don’t just think, “Well, the suits will go to the basement.”
Guest bathroom in the private area
Family bathroom extremely large
Children’s rooms are not really in the private area. They always have to be accessed through the large hallway. For this reason, the bedroom orientation would be better. K2 is a bit dark.
The open living area is large but won’t feel spacious and bright.
Hallway wardrobe directly at the door will almost always look messy.
Hallway to basement and bathroom is quite narrow and dark.
The stairs to the basement will not be easy to use.
Will the bookshelf, shoe cabinet, or your dream sofa fit?
Many floor plans include dollhouse furniture, and the dining area fits into every camper van.
Regarding your floor plan
Bedroom: Draw in a wardrobe in the size you want. Don’t just think, “Well, the suits will go to the basement.”
Guest bathroom in the private area
Family bathroom extremely large
Children’s rooms are not really in the private area. They always have to be accessed through the large hallway. For this reason, the bedroom orientation would be better. K2 is a bit dark.
The open living area is large but won’t feel spacious and bright.
Hallway wardrobe directly at the door will almost always look messy.
Hallway to basement and bathroom is quite narrow and dark.
The stairs to the basement will not be easy to use.
haydee schrieb:
I wouldn’t have recognized the Vita house by Weiss.Thank goodness not – compared to that model, you can almost call this a “clear” design. The Weiss Vita is no longer just an angled bungalow; it’s more like a complex-shaped bungalow. Besides, I think that if you’re in your mid-thirties with young children, you never think about the post-kid phase or even “old age.” No one can guarantee that physical issues will start with arthritis in particular – so trying to avoid stairs as a form of prevention is probably questionable wisdom. By the way, you’re not going to be fit at ninety sitting in an armchair ;-)Iotafreak schrieb:
Is the floor plan improvable, or is it basically useless?Definitely – not just the specific floor plan, but the entire bungalow concept! Don’t fall too hard in love with it, and give the architect a chance first. The extra cost for the angled bungalow with a hip roof could buy a car by the time the kids finish high school.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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