ᐅ No Internet Access in the New Housing Development – DigiNetz Act?
Created on: 16 Mar 2021 21:47
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launchme
Hi everyone,
we have the opportunity to purchase a plot for a semi-detached house soon. The plot is located in southern Bavaria, in a district of a county town with just under 20,000 residents.
During our first meeting (plot selection), it was mentioned in passing that the internet provision is not yet established or clarified. It is a new development area with 17 plots plus 2 apartment buildings.
On the BMVI website, the DigiNetz law is promoted. It states that “when developing new housing areas, the simultaneous installation of fiber optic cables is always guaranteed.”
So far, I have found out that the regional electricity provider apparently installs empty conduits for fiber optics up to the house during the development phase. However, it seems that no one intends to activate the connection.
I can’t really make sense of this. Is it still imaginable in 2021 that a new development area has no internet? What options do I have to put pressure on the city regarding this?
Thanks for your feedback 🙂
we have the opportunity to purchase a plot for a semi-detached house soon. The plot is located in southern Bavaria, in a district of a county town with just under 20,000 residents.
During our first meeting (plot selection), it was mentioned in passing that the internet provision is not yet established or clarified. It is a new development area with 17 plots plus 2 apartment buildings.
On the BMVI website, the DigiNetz law is promoted. It states that “when developing new housing areas, the simultaneous installation of fiber optic cables is always guaranteed.”
So far, I have found out that the regional electricity provider apparently installs empty conduits for fiber optics up to the house during the development phase. However, it seems that no one intends to activate the connection.
I can’t really make sense of this. Is it still imaginable in 2021 that a new development area has no internet? What options do I have to put pressure on the city regarding this?
Thanks for your feedback 🙂
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HilfeHilfe17 Mar 2021 10:56launchme schrieb:
Thanks for your feedback! 😉
No, unfortunately, cable is not available. Otherwise, that would have been fine for me.
As far as I can see, the water supply and sewage system are already completed. I can’t really judge anything else. However, work is being done there diligently every day.
Microwave link? I’m still waiting for an offer on that. But I’m not sure if it’s a top-notch solution.
Unfortunately, according to the electricity provider, while they do install empty conduits for internet/fiber optics, they don’t actually lay fiber optic cables themselves. The situation with cable is also poor…
I have thought about that too. It seems possible to get FTTH here for just €15,000 (about $15,900) 😳.
What still doesn’t make sense to me is the ministry’s grand promises. In reality, it’s a total disappointment – can that really be true? 🤨theory and practice
I don’t know what hurts more: no internet or fighting to get your rights.
until you get your way...
have you simply asked at the town hall?
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hampshire17 Mar 2021 11:42The real question is whether the original poster should buy the plot of land if the fixed-line internet situation is not fully clarified yet. If the price and location of the land are right, I wouldn’t hesitate—unless there is an abundance of plots available in your area, which is rather unlikely. You can always find an internet solution somewhere, and even if it turns out to be more expensive, it usually won’t be a deal-breaker compared to a good plot at a fair price. For professional purposes, it’s all manageable. For dedicated online gamers, it might be an issue.
Logically speaking: there will be fixed-line telephone service as well. These lines have to be installed too. Fiber optic is not more expensive than copper and offers providers access to more revenue since more services run over it. So what could happen other than the connection being activated a little later than the house is ready?
Logically speaking: there will be fixed-line telephone service as well. These lines have to be installed too. Fiber optic is not more expensive than copper and offers providers access to more revenue since more services run over it. So what could happen other than the connection being activated a little later than the house is ready?
HilfeHilfe schrieb:
theory and practice
don’t know which hurts more, no internet or getting permissions.
until you get your way through...
have you simply asked the local authority? Yes, I am in contact with the local authority. So far, I haven’t received any further information.
hampshire schrieb:
The real question is whether the OP should buy the plot if the fixed-line internet issue is not conclusively resolved or not. If the plot price and location are right, I wouldn’t hesitate, unless building plots are as common as sand in your region—which is unlikely. An internet solution can always be found somewhere—even if it ends up more expensive, it won’t be a deal-breaker compared to a good plot at a fair price. For professional use, this is all solvable. For passionate online gamers, it might be a problem.
Logically viewed: fixed-line telephony will be available. Those lines have to be installed as well. Fiber optic is not more expensive than copper and offers the provider access to more revenue since more services run over it. So what could happen other than the connection arriving a bit later than the house? So fixed-line has to be mandatory? According to the local authority, Telekom’s statement is that LTE is available with sufficient strength. Telekom also offers fixed-line via LTE. I don’t quite trust that 😉
Of course, we will not ultimately decide against buying the plot because of that. The options are simply too limited, and there is no alternative in sight for us. Still, maybe someone here in the forum has experience about which levers to pull at which point in the decision process to ensure that the 21st century arrives in this new development area too.
launchme schrieb:
Is a landline connection mandatory, then? According to the town hall, Telekom states that LTE is available with sufficient coverage. Telekom also offers landline service via LTE.Fiber optic will be installed, either 1. Telekom will lay it, or 2. a competitor will do it, or 3. Telekom informs the Federal Network Agency (BNetzA) that it intends to install it but actually does not—then a competitor will be allowed to proceed. Telekom cannot block this by claiming its right of first refusal for more than a year.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
I believe there is currently a shortage of fiber optic installers in your area. After all, fiber optic cables are being laid underground here as much as the drills allow, especially in rural regions.
It was the same for us when our development area was being prepared. The telecom company wanted to install fiber optic cables under the road, but that was planned for roughly two years after the rest of the infrastructure was completed. As a result, the local utility provider was forced to step in on short notice.
In the meantime, I also thought there would be no internet connection at all. If the developer of your residential area isn’t completely incompetent, someone will arrange to have an internet line installed in the street.
It was the same for us when our development area was being prepared. The telecom company wanted to install fiber optic cables under the road, but that was planned for roughly two years after the rest of the infrastructure was completed. As a result, the local utility provider was forced to step in on short notice.
In the meantime, I also thought there would be no internet connection at all. If the developer of your residential area isn’t completely incompetent, someone will arrange to have an internet line installed in the street.
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