ᐅ To build up the plot or not?

Created on: 27 Jun 2020 17:25
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Yaso2.0
Hello everyone,

Our plot is located between a street at the front and a private driveway at the rear. The private driveway cannot be used for access or the driveway entrance. Access can only be made from the street.

Now the question is at what height we should position the house. Should we align it with the street level or with the private driveway?

If we align with the private driveway, we would need to add 80-100cm (31-39 inches) of fill, and the entrance to the house would likely require several steps. Also, the driveway to the parking area would probably be quite steep.

If we align with the street, the rear part of the plot would remain slightly below the level of the private driveway.

The street slopes upwards to the west. The neighbor to the west has adapted his house to the houses in the second row and his house is positioned quite high. His driveway is also very steep.

The neighbor to the north has leveled his plot completely and placed his house level with the street.

Our plot is in the middle. What would be the most sensible approach?

I have attached the elevation plan, hopefully it is clear.

Edit: The building project would be a single-family house without a basement!

Plot plan showing parcels, gray buildings, and a green circle around a plum tree.
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icandoit
12 Mar 2021 17:19
I don’t see any need to widen to 5 m (16 feet), unless you might want a double parking space (carport) later on.

The driveway to the parking space has a 10% slope. In that case, L-shaped concrete blocks will be sufficient.

I have marked it on a plan for review.

Site plan: Large blue building, FFL 22.50, green area on the left, stairs on the right, blocks 0.50 m (20 inches).
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icandoit
12 Mar 2021 17:41
Is there a retaining wall on the south side of the property?

Was there no better solution?

In this case, a basement under the house with an integrated garage or carport would almost be the obvious choice. It’s mainly a question of cost.

Have you also shared your floor plans here? You need to consider both together.
Yaso2.012 Mar 2021 20:22
icandoit schrieb:

What is the current status?

Are you still in the planning phase?

Why can’t the car be parked on the street? Is that a garage?

Why does the house set back 0.65 m (about 2 feet) from the street? Because of the wall heights?

Why 3.5 m (about 11.5 feet) instead of 3 m (about 10 feet) from the property boundary?

Is there a plan from the approved planning stage?

Basically, we have finished the planning and now want to create the construction drawings / building documents.

The house is set back 3.65 m (about 12 feet) from the street because it will then align with the neighboring houses on the east and west sides.

The driveway width of 3.5 m (about 11.5 feet) was intended to allow a bit more space for getting in and out, and more room near the entrance.

However, I was called and told that due to the height difference, the parking area needs to be widened to 5 m (about 16.5 feet), because on one side, towards the neighbor (east), and on the other between the parking space and the house, the area must be secured / supported.
icandoit schrieb:

I don’t see a need to widen it to 5 m (about 16.5 feet). Unless you want to have a double parking space (carport) later?

The driveway leading to the parking space has a 10% slope. Then L-shaped curbstones are sufficient.

I’ve marked it on a plan for review.


No double parking space is planned, maybe one carport later.
icandoit schrieb:

Is there a retaining wall on the south side of the property?

Was there no better solution?

A basement level with an integrated garage or carport almost seems obvious here. It’s just a matter of cost.

Did you already share your floor plans here? It’s important to consider both together.

There is a retaining wall on the south side because behind it there are semi-detached houses in the second row. The house will be placed at the street. The south and west sides were previously supported because of the access to the private driveway for the houses in the rear.

A basement level / integrated garage would cost 70,000 to 100,000 (EUR), which is well beyond our budget!

Black and white floor plan of a property layout with parcel sizes indicated (389 m², 484 m²).
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icandoit
12 Mar 2021 23:50
I don’t see the 5 m (16 ft). Can the general contractor explain this to you in more detail?
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icandoit
13 Mar 2021 00:05
I don’t see the necessity for the 5 m (16 feet). Can the general contractor explain this to you in more detail?

Is the access for the southern properties on the south side between lots 366/6 and 357/3?

The alignment of the houses shouldn’t matter. The western neighbor is further from the street than the eastern one.

Why is the parking space placed so far into the lot? Do you need the second parking space in the driveway?

Before you submit anything, I would also like to see the floor plans.

You have significant earthworks to carry out. With my suggestion, the earth balance should almost work out.

From a height difference of 1 m (3.3 feet) within the building area, a basement should already make sense.

I would like to review this again tomorrow once I have seen the plans.

Have a nice evening.
11ant13 Mar 2021 01:54
icandoit schrieb:

I don’t see the 5 m (16 ft); can the general contractor explain this to you in more detail?

As I understand it, the original poster wants an effective driveway width—meaning the space between the house and the fence—of 3.50 m (11.5 ft). The general contractor is now proposing to allocate 1.50 m (5 ft) of that width for earthworks and grading, which means the planned total width is increased to 5.00 m (16 ft) to account for the unexpected 1.50 m, so that after subtracting this, there is still the desired 3.50 m of usable width left.
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