Hello everyone,
we are currently building our single-family house with a general contractor. Our quote includes electronic roller shutters and venetian blinds. The offer also includes one switch planned for each roller shutter or venetian blind. However, we are not entirely satisfied because there is no option to lower all the roller shutters and venetian blinds at once. Currently, I see the following solutions:
1) One central switch per floor (basement, ground floor, upper floor) that lowers all the roller shutters/venetian blinds on that level. According to the electrician, this is complicated to implement and quite expensive (about 1000 euros per switch plus wiring).
2) Each roller shutter/venetian blind is equipped with an actuator (is that the correct term?), which we can control wirelessly. In other words, everything operates with switches, but I have the option to send a wireless signal to all roller shutters so they go down or up together.
3) Electric wireless drives are used (e.g., Somfy Rs 100 io). Then no wired switches would be needed for the drives. However, I would have wireless switches stuck to the whole wall. Is that really practical?
I’m sure there are clever solutions I haven’t thought of… Can you help me?
we are currently building our single-family house with a general contractor. Our quote includes electronic roller shutters and venetian blinds. The offer also includes one switch planned for each roller shutter or venetian blind. However, we are not entirely satisfied because there is no option to lower all the roller shutters and venetian blinds at once. Currently, I see the following solutions:
1) One central switch per floor (basement, ground floor, upper floor) that lowers all the roller shutters/venetian blinds on that level. According to the electrician, this is complicated to implement and quite expensive (about 1000 euros per switch plus wiring).
2) Each roller shutter/venetian blind is equipped with an actuator (is that the correct term?), which we can control wirelessly. In other words, everything operates with switches, but I have the option to send a wireless signal to all roller shutters so they go down or up together.
3) Electric wireless drives are used (e.g., Somfy Rs 100 io). Then no wired switches would be needed for the drives. However, I would have wireless switches stuck to the whole wall. Is that really practical?
I’m sure there are clever solutions I haven’t thought of… Can you help me?
Primarily, my goal is to be able to lower and raise all the roller shutters or blinds at once. The simple reason for this is that I don’t want to walk through every room in the evening and press each switch individually. However, I still want the option to control the shutters individually via switches in each room during the day. For me, this is a MUST HAVE.
To support this MUST HAVE, a central switch (around 1000 €) would be sufficient.
Now I’m wondering whether it might be more sensible to go with Somfy. For me, this means equipping all electric roller shutters and blinds with a radio motor, so I wouldn’t have to run cables to the switches anymore. A central switch would no longer be an issue. However, since we have about 20 windows, this would certainly not be cheap. The advantage, though, is that I could control everything via smartphone (through the Tahoma box). That would be NICE TO HAVE.
What I have considered now is making the central 1000 € switch (see above) “smart.” That is, I would buy a Wi-Fi radio switch (+ hub, e.g., Amazon, Hue hub, etc.) and be able to control it via smartphone—ON and OFF. The advantage would be that I could take out my phone and raise or lower all shutters at the touch of a button. The question is, is this even possible?
To support this MUST HAVE, a central switch (around 1000 €) would be sufficient.
Now I’m wondering whether it might be more sensible to go with Somfy. For me, this means equipping all electric roller shutters and blinds with a radio motor, so I wouldn’t have to run cables to the switches anymore. A central switch would no longer be an issue. However, since we have about 20 windows, this would certainly not be cheap. The advantage, though, is that I could control everything via smartphone (through the Tahoma box). That would be NICE TO HAVE.
What I have considered now is making the central 1000 € switch (see above) “smart.” That is, I would buy a Wi-Fi radio switch (+ hub, e.g., Amazon, Hue hub, etc.) and be able to control it via smartphone—ON and OFF. The advantage would be that I could take out my phone and raise or lower all shutters at the touch of a button. The question is, is this even possible?
Schimi179112 Mar 2021 09:20Palme23 schrieb:
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The advantage would be that I can take out my phone and control all the roller shutters with the push of a button, moving them up or down. The only question is, is that even possible?Definitely with Tahoma 🙂 Some of our roller shutters:I have programmed different scenes, for example:
Window X - 0 % (fully open)
Window X - 80 % (almost closed)
Window X - 100 % (fully closed)
And created a schedule for when and what should happen with each window, meaning when each scene should be triggered:
Other systems probably support this as well ...
Palme23 schrieb:
What I’m considering now is making the central 1000 € switch (see above) "smart." In my opinion, that doesn’t make sense and isn’t necessary.
We have exactly the same "requirements" as you and have all windows fitted with electric switches in a "standard version." That means each window has its own switch right next to it.
Locating the switches centrally would be both significantly more expensive and unattractive.
I’m having deeper mounting boxes installed throughout the house so there is more space behind the switches to easily install "wireless modules." Whether Enocean, Bosch, Rademacher, Shelly, or similar, I still have to decide... Cost per unit is 20-50 EUR.
In my case, these will be integrated via HomeKit (Apple) and can be controlled as desired. Whether by tapping on a smartphone, tablet, or voice command, everything is possible.
Software allows you to create different scenes and define the function or participating devices (e.g., roller shutters). For example, scenes like "shade living room," "all shutters up," "all down," or "shutters closed on the ground floor," etc. This way, in my view, you get a cost-effective, flexible, and comfortable solution.
Palme23 schrieb:
The question is just, is that even possible?It is definitely possible. But you only do it five times because you realize that secondary features like roller shutters should ideally control themselves, and you shouldn’t have to reach for the phone every time.netuser schrieb:
I am having deeper outlet boxes installed throughout the entire house so there is more space behind the switches, making it easy to install "wireless modules." Whether EnOcean, Bosch, Rademacher, Shelly, or similar, I still need to decide... Cost per piece is around 20-50 EUR.This has helped me a lot. I think I just didn’t understand it before. Now things are becoming a bit clearer. But how exactly does it work?
As I understand it now, I have an electric roller shutter and a switch located next to the window. Between them there is just a cable. With one of these wireless modules from EnOcean, Bosch, etc., I would simply connect the wireless module in between, so switch -> wireless module -> cable -> electric roller shutter. Then I can control the wireless module with my phone by sending "up" and "down" commands, and to the electric roller shutter it looks as if someone is operating the switch manually?
If I want to lower all the roller shutters at once, I just send "down" to all of them. The central switch then becomes somewhat redundant.
And of course, I can use suitable software to make the wireless modules "smart," right? For example, to automatically raise them every morning at 6:00 am?
Thank you very much for your help.
Palme23 schrieb:
If I want to lower all the roller shutters, I just send the “down” command to all of them. So the central switch is basically redundant. Yes, something like that.
Palme23 schrieb:
And of course, can I also use suitable software to make the radio modules “smart”? That is, have them go up every morning at 6:00 AM? Yes, that’s possible as well.
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