Hello everyone,
My husband and I are about to purchase windows for our new build.
We want wood-aluminum windows made from spruce wood. We have received several offers and talked to some acquaintances as well as researched online what to look for regarding quality. Unfortunately, we are still not much wiser.
Our preferred options differ mainly in two aspects:
Offer A: Aluminum cladding has a mechanical corner joint, and the wood is made of triple-glued laminated timber
Offer B: Aluminum cladding has a welded corner joint, and the wood is made from a single piece of wood
1. According to people we know, a welded joint is considered higher quality
2. Online, I noticed that most suppliers use triple-glued laminated wood and advertise better stability and therefore longer durability
We have already visited houses with windows installed by both companies, and they looked good and high-quality. However, we do not have long-term experience, and the durability of the windows is very important to me.
If anyone can provide insights on these points, I would be very grateful.
My husband and I are about to purchase windows for our new build.
We want wood-aluminum windows made from spruce wood. We have received several offers and talked to some acquaintances as well as researched online what to look for regarding quality. Unfortunately, we are still not much wiser.
Our preferred options differ mainly in two aspects:
Offer A: Aluminum cladding has a mechanical corner joint, and the wood is made of triple-glued laminated timber
Offer B: Aluminum cladding has a welded corner joint, and the wood is made from a single piece of wood
1. According to people we know, a welded joint is considered higher quality
2. Online, I noticed that most suppliers use triple-glued laminated wood and advertise better stability and therefore longer durability
We have already visited houses with windows installed by both companies, and they looked good and high-quality. However, we do not have long-term experience, and the durability of the windows is very important to me.
If anyone can provide insights on these points, I would be very grateful.
I’m not in the mood to write five more posts about this...
Five people I know are building in Bavaria, some along village roads. I asked all of them and looked at the quotes they got: 32dB, installation according to ArdT.
I could tell you the structure of the glazing, but I’d have to look it up, and honestly, I’m not interested right now... I did all that research back then myself.
If your situation is different, good for you. If it’s not, just make sure to pay attention.
That’s it.
I just wanted to share some advice here, and I have other interests in life besides this house building forum.
Five people I know are building in Bavaria, some along village roads. I asked all of them and looked at the quotes they got: 32dB, installation according to ArdT.
I could tell you the structure of the glazing, but I’d have to look it up, and honestly, I’m not interested right now... I did all that research back then myself.
If your situation is different, good for you. If it’s not, just make sure to pay attention.
That’s it.
I just wanted to share some advice here, and I have other interests in life besides this house building forum.
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nordanney19 Feb 2021 13:39Snowy36 schrieb:
Five of my acquaintances are building in Bavaria, partly on village streets, all asked and looked at the quotes they obtained: 32dB, installed according to ArdT.Who knows what information the acquaintances received or what kind of cheap rubbish they are installing ;-). Otherwise, laboratory values of 32dB for new windows are not possible if the panes alone measure 36dB...
I just looked it up out of curiosity. I found basically identical figures from Veka, Gealan, and Schüco. No windows with 32dB, all better. As I said, there is an adjustment for certain noise spectra (for example, Ctr for propeller planes, jet planes at long distance, disco music, etc., or C for playing children, jet planes at close range, highway traffic over 80km/h (50mph), etc.).
You can create impressive figures there, but when you compare apples to oranges, you get interesting results and statements.
Ok, since you keep insisting so much... (-:
UNIGLAS® TOP A 1.0 Z are our 4/16/4 glass panes: 32 dB is stated in the brochure.
And these are commonly used by many manufacturers in our region...
If the frame performs better than 32 dB, what good does that do me? Should I now calculate an average? The larger the window and the higher the glass ratio, the closer I get to exactly 32 dB?!
UNIGLAS® TOP A 1.0 Z are our 4/16/4 glass panes: 32 dB is stated in the brochure.
And these are commonly used by many manufacturers in our region...
If the frame performs better than 32 dB, what good does that do me? Should I now calculate an average? The larger the window and the higher the glass ratio, the closer I get to exactly 32 dB?!
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nordanney19 Feb 2021 14:22Snowy36 schrieb:
UNIGLAS® TOP A 1.0 Z are our 4/16/4 glazing units: 32 dB as stated in the brochure.However, the glazing has really poor values for C/Ctr – it is the simplest possible version. No wonder it sounds loud at your place (and your acquaintances’). Probably combined with a cheap frame without a warm edge spacer, and that explains it... By the way, Uniglas consistently has poor values, no matter which glass you choose.
This happens when you don’t go for triple glazing or try to save money 😉 No offense intended.
Sorry, I obviously made a mistake ... I was looking at double glazing in the brochure ...
Of course, we have
UNIGLAS® TOP PURE A 0.5 P
but these also have 32 dB sound insulation.
By the way, these are not cheap windows from Poland (just to avoid generalizations), but windows made by a local joinery company ....
As I said, we were not aware at the time that we should have checked this ...
We had the glass replaced, now it's fine ... but the money could have been spent better ...
What does MD mean?
Of course, we have
UNIGLAS® TOP PURE A 0.5 P
but these also have 32 dB sound insulation.
By the way, these are not cheap windows from Poland (just to avoid generalizations), but windows made by a local joinery company ....
As I said, we were not aware at the time that we should have checked this ...
We had the glass replaced, now it's fine ... but the money could have been spent better ...
What does MD mean?
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nordanney19 Feb 2021 15:40Snowy36 schrieb:
What does MD mean?Middle sealingSimilar topics