Hello,
Has anyone here built a house without a basement on a slope? I would appreciate some pictures to get a better idea. We have an elevation difference of about 5 m (16 feet) from the street to the property boundary, which is approximately 25 m (82 feet) away, and the finished floor level (FFL) is planned to be 1.66 m (5.4 feet) above the street, with the garage 0.5 m (1.6 feet) lower.
Has anyone here built a house without a basement on a slope? I would appreciate some pictures to get a better idea. We have an elevation difference of about 5 m (16 feet) from the street to the property boundary, which is approximately 25 m (82 feet) away, and the finished floor level (FFL) is planned to be 1.66 m (5.4 feet) above the street, with the garage 0.5 m (1.6 feet) lower.
11ant schrieb:
On what basis did you put those together? Did the original poster send you any additional information (requirements, currently planned floor plan)?I just took a look to see if something practical could be done on the slope. A townhouse just doesn’t fit at all.I also believe that the house is completely misplanned for the plot.
We ourselves have a hillside house with a slope of 6.5 m (21 feet) on a plot depth of about 28 m (92 feet). We have a basement level with the entrance area, a children's room, a children’s bathroom, and at the rear part (into the slope) a utility and technical room with basement windows (light wells), and a cloakroom serving as a transition area to the garage, which has no windows at all. The children's rooms at the front have normal windows, ceiling height, etc., and are nothing like traditional basement rooms. On top of this basement, we built only one more floor. We wanted to build as wide as possible to hold back as much of the slope as possible with the house (and the attached garage). This way, we only need retaining L-shaped concrete blocks on one side to meet the setback requirements. In the garden area, depending on the plot depth, you can either work with a slope that can be attractively landscaped or build another retaining wall to terrace and level the land. Of course, that again costs more money.
In my opinion, 25k for your planned exterior work will never be enough, no matter how much work you do yourself. Just your entrance staircase will cost quite a bit. Do you even have heavy machinery for the exterior work? How many meters of concrete block wall are you planning? At some point, mixing your own concrete will reach its limits. You want to do a lot of the building work yourself (if I remember correctly, the shell in EL—“owner-building”). Do you have a friendly company supporting you in the background? Or how exactly will the owner-building be realized? Friends also lose motivation sometimes when asked to help from the shell construction all the way to the garden.
We ourselves have a hillside house with a slope of 6.5 m (21 feet) on a plot depth of about 28 m (92 feet). We have a basement level with the entrance area, a children's room, a children’s bathroom, and at the rear part (into the slope) a utility and technical room with basement windows (light wells), and a cloakroom serving as a transition area to the garage, which has no windows at all. The children's rooms at the front have normal windows, ceiling height, etc., and are nothing like traditional basement rooms. On top of this basement, we built only one more floor. We wanted to build as wide as possible to hold back as much of the slope as possible with the house (and the attached garage). This way, we only need retaining L-shaped concrete blocks on one side to meet the setback requirements. In the garden area, depending on the plot depth, you can either work with a slope that can be attractively landscaped or build another retaining wall to terrace and level the land. Of course, that again costs more money.
In my opinion, 25k for your planned exterior work will never be enough, no matter how much work you do yourself. Just your entrance staircase will cost quite a bit. Do you even have heavy machinery for the exterior work? How many meters of concrete block wall are you planning? At some point, mixing your own concrete will reach its limits. You want to do a lot of the building work yourself (if I remember correctly, the shell in EL—“owner-building”). Do you have a friendly company supporting you in the background? Or how exactly will the owner-building be realized? Friends also lose motivation sometimes when asked to help from the shell construction all the way to the garden.
Crossy schrieb:
How many meters of concrete block wall are you planning to build? At some point, mixing your own concrete reaches its limits. You want to contribute a lot of work to the build yourselves (if I remember correctly, the shell construction done by yourselves). Do you have a construction company helping you behind the scenes? Or how do you plan to complete the shell construction? Even friends can lose motivation if they have to help from the shell to the garden. Not only will it never work with 25 k, but structurally it will never hold up to 3 m (10 feet) in height.
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WilderSueden13 Feb 2021 13:58It is important to remember that all safety measures must be completed before the construction of the house begins. Your own work must therefore fit into the schedule of the building company. If something takes longer, this gives the builder a convenient reason to no longer feel responsible for on-time completion.
Crossy schrieb:
I also think the house is completely wrongly designed for the plot.
We have a hillside house with a slope rising 6.5m (21 feet) over a plot depth of about 28m (92 feet). We have a living basement with an entrance area, children’s room, kids’ bathroom, and at the back (in the slope) a technical and utility room with basement windows (light wells), plus a cloakroom acting as a buffer to the garage but with no windows. The children’s rooms facing forward have regular windows, standard ceiling height, etc., nothing like typical basement rooms. On top of this basement, we only built one more floor. We wanted to build as wide as possible to hold back as much of the slope as possible with the house (and attached garage). That way, we only need retaining L-shaped blocks on one side to hold back the slope for the setback distance. In the garden area, depending on the plot depth, you can work with a slope that can be nicely planted, or build another retaining wall to terrace the land. But that naturally costs extra.
In my opinion, €25k will never be enough for your planned outdoor work, no matter how much you do yourself. Just your entrance stairs alone will cost quite a bit. Do you even have heavy equipment for the external works? How many meters of concrete block walls are you planning? At some point, mixing your own concrete hits its limits. You want to do a lot of the construction work yourself (if I remember correctly, shell construction on EL). Do you have a friendly company supporting you? Or how will you manage the EL? Friends can quickly lose motivation if they have to help all the way from the shell to the garden. Yes, I’m doing the shell construction together with my father. We did the same about 8 years ago, it worked very well. But I’m starting to realize that the townhouse definitely doesn’t fit this plot! I will call the architect on Monday and discuss my plans with him. Attached is a picture; I think something like this, maybe with different dimensions, should also comply with the development plan.
Andyru94 schrieb:
Yes, I’m building the shell together with my father. We did the same about 8 years ago, and it worked very well. But by now, I also realize that the townhouse definitely doesn’t fit this plot! I will call the architect on Monday and tell him about my plans. Attached is a picture; I think something like this, possibly with different dimensions, should also comply with the building regulations.So you have a 2.5-story house, is that within your budget? Please share the floor plans of the house.Have you looked at my suggestion? It’s much better tailored to your plot. Having a garage on the south side of the basement doesn’t make sense. Also, so few windows facing southwest doesn’t work.
Please post the conditions of the building permit / planning permission. Is the garage allowed right on the property line?
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