Hello everyone,
after quietly reading for some time, I am now hoping for your help.
Almost three years ago, we bought and renovated a bungalow from the 1970s (not an energy-efficient renovation). Since the ground floor now meets our needs, it is time to focus on the attic.
And this is where you come in.
The attic is basically already developed, but not in the way we imagine it.
We want one bathroom with a shower, one master bedroom, and one or two children’s rooms.
Unfortunately, I don’t have dimensioned plans; the exterior measurements were taken from the ground floor plan. The other data were measured by myself and therefore are probably not 100% accurate.
I am mainly looking for creative input and ideas for the room layout. I have attached my first draft/idea.
Important details:
- Concrete ceiling
- Roof pitch 35 degrees
- Two wooden beams and the chimney/vent are fixed and cannot be moved (marked in white)
- Windows as they are
- Wastewater outlet located to the left of the stairs in the exterior wall
- The white lines outside are meant to mark the 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) line, which will become the new knee wall
- The roof shape surprised us somewhat because where the white line for the knee wall is drawn, the large roof is actually recessed into the smaller roof on the inside, which in my opinion makes the smaller roof less usable
What do you think of my idea? Is it feasible or not? Will the rooms/functionality work out well?
Do you have suggestions for improvements or maybe a completely different idea?
after quietly reading for some time, I am now hoping for your help.
Almost three years ago, we bought and renovated a bungalow from the 1970s (not an energy-efficient renovation). Since the ground floor now meets our needs, it is time to focus on the attic.
And this is where you come in.
The attic is basically already developed, but not in the way we imagine it.
We want one bathroom with a shower, one master bedroom, and one or two children’s rooms.
Unfortunately, I don’t have dimensioned plans; the exterior measurements were taken from the ground floor plan. The other data were measured by myself and therefore are probably not 100% accurate.
I am mainly looking for creative input and ideas for the room layout. I have attached my first draft/idea.
Important details:
- Concrete ceiling
- Roof pitch 35 degrees
- Two wooden beams and the chimney/vent are fixed and cannot be moved (marked in white)
- Windows as they are
- Wastewater outlet located to the left of the stairs in the exterior wall
- The white lines outside are meant to mark the 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) line, which will become the new knee wall
- The roof shape surprised us somewhat because where the white line for the knee wall is drawn, the large roof is actually recessed into the smaller roof on the inside, which in my opinion makes the smaller roof less usable
What do you think of my idea? Is it feasible or not? Will the rooms/functionality work out well?
Do you have suggestions for improvements or maybe a completely different idea?
Erlkönig schrieb:
Yes, the ground floor is done that way and fully renovated. We want to keep it like that, we are satisfied 🙂.
That’s good to hear.
All the ceilings are concrete slabs.
That’s unfortunate. Then the option for a bathroom facing south is hardly feasible.
Personally, I don’t see a windowless hallway as a major issue; we don’t have one downstairs either, you just have to use the light switch more often (yes, I know, it’s not a new build or, let’s say, high-end standard 🙂)
If you had a double casement window above the stairs in the attic or a skylight at the ridge, there would also be natural light in the hallway downstairs.
In Lower Saxony, a renovation like the one we are planning does not require a building permit / planning permission, so we don’t necessarily need a certified designer. And from my experience (e.g., with kitchen planning), if you don’t know exactly what you want yourself, no one will do the work for you anyway.
UAll the better.
I’ll take a closer look at your sketch shortly. Although I actually would not need a children’s bathroom (we don’t even have a guest bathroom downstairs, admittedly 🙂)
That will probably be the bathroom upstairs, but your plan doesn’t work for that. There’s no space with sufficient ceiling height. Without a window, I wouldn’t want that either.
Enjoy!
ypg schrieb:
a simplified version
I had posted a sketch without rooms (post 31). It should be better suited for an overview.I would also suggest adding a double casement window above the staircase.
I’ll try to keep it simple without quotes for clarity.
First of all, @haydee
At the moment, we actually only need one child’s bedroom (and the bathroom, so you don’t have to walk too far).
@icandoit
Thanks, and thanks again for the draft in case it was overlooked.
You think the distance to the drain will be too long if the bathroom is placed by the window? I had that concern too, so that would definitely be on my list of questions for the professional.
@ypg
Thanks to you as well for the draft. That would of course be a completely different concept. You could use the upstairs room as an office while the child is small and the child’s bedroom downstairs, then switch later.
It’s a different approach, which I find interesting, and I’ll have to think about whether and how it might suit us.
First of all, @haydee
At the moment, we actually only need one child’s bedroom (and the bathroom, so you don’t have to walk too far).
@icandoit
Thanks, and thanks again for the draft in case it was overlooked.
You think the distance to the drain will be too long if the bathroom is placed by the window? I had that concern too, so that would definitely be on my list of questions for the professional.
@ypg
Thanks to you as well for the draft. That would of course be a completely different concept. You could use the upstairs room as an office while the child is small and the child’s bedroom downstairs, then switch later.
It’s a different approach, which I find interesting, and I’ll have to think about whether and how it might suit us.
Erlkönig schrieb:
@icandoit
Thanks, and thanks again for the draft in case it was overlooked.
You think the drain line will be too long if the bathroom is moved to the window side? I had the same concern, so that would definitely be on my list of questions for the professional.
They say "impossible is nothing." But the question is whether you want the impact on the ground floor.
What about the shower wastewater if a flush-to-floor design is desired?
Has the subfloor already been installed? Impact sound insulation and screed?
Wastewater from the toilet, sink, and bathtub could probably be routed through the knee wall?
Bathroom planning and its installation seem to be the critical points.
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