ᐅ Site planning / floor plan design

Created on: 15 Jan 2021 22:17
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SaschaL
Hello everyone,

I more or less stumbled upon a plot of land after someone let their reservation expire.

The plot is about 606 square meters (6,521 square feet), according to my "measurement" approximately 18.10 meters by 33.50 meters (60 feet by 110 feet), not officially surveyed yet, and now I’m wondering exactly what I can do with it.

The development plan sets out the following for "my plot":
  • 0.35 floor area ratio
  • Single-story buildings only
  • Maximum building height 10 meters (33 feet)
  • Eave height max 4.50 meters (15 feet)
  • One driveway with max width of 4 meters (13 feet)
  • Two parking spaces are mandatory
  • Roof pitch between 15° and 51°
  • Roofs of garages etc. may differ in shape
  • Garages, carports, and ancillary buildings as defined by §14 (1) of the building use ordinance, which are buildings, must not exceed the street-side building boundaries of the access roads.
  • Dormers and roof recesses: the total length of dormers or roof recesses per roof side may not exceed 50% of the total length of that roof side.
  • Standard distance to property boundary is 3 meters (10 feet)
  • In the southern area, there is an 8-meter (26 feet) deep strip across the full width of the plot (approx. 18 meters (60 feet)) where trees and shrubs must be preserved. This area is quite densely vegetated and reaches heights up to 10 meters (33 feet) – I’ve tried to visualize this below
  • In the middle of this vegetation is a downward slope... the building boundary to this strip was reduced from the normal 3 meters to 2 meters (7 feet) so the plots aren’t too restricted.

Site plan of a building area with street B, colored zones, measurements (606 sqm) and north arrow.



Plot layout with central house, surrounding courtyard area and garden hedge at the bottom edge.


3D model: House on plot with hedge and indicated dimensions.

3D house model with gable roof on blue background, green hedge at edge, dimension lines visible.


Here I have placed an example house measuring 9.60 meters by 11.95 meters (31.5 feet by 39 feet), which I like based on my initial review (Viebrockhaus Edition 600).

Next to the house, in the 5.50-meter (18 feet) wide space there would be a carport – is that enough space for two parking spots? I would prefer not to make the house narrower just to accommodate vehicles... but then there’s hardly any room left for fencing?!

The terrace and garden at the back are, of course, limited by the tall trees – but that’s a compromise I’ll have to accept.

I’ve never built a house in my life before... so this is my first time dealing with this topic in detail. What would you do in this situation? Make the house a bit smaller?

If you need more information, just ask – as I said, I’m a beginner and eager to learn 🙂

My wishes are:

- Starting from 160 square meters (1,722 square feet) upwards
- I’m currently thinking about a basement and budget around $100k extra for it
- I don’t like long corridors

Once the plot situation is reasonably clear, I’d like to hear your advice on floor plans – that will surely be a more extensive topic.

Best regards
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ypg
30 Jan 2021 10:56
SaschaL schrieb:

I'm really trying!

It should please you!
First, take a look at who will actually build your house. If your favorite is Viebrockhaus, you might as well forget about your ideas.
If you want to have a plan to request quotes, then this will be enough...
As I said before: I would first move the staircase.
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WilderSueden
30 Jan 2021 10:59
With a eaves height of 4.50m (15 ft), you will only be able to place the shower against the interior wall. So the plan needs to be revised again 😉

And basically, the showers in your designs always seem relatively small to me (compared to the size of the house). What width are you planning for the shower?
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SaschaL
30 Jan 2021 11:48
ypg schrieb:

It should please you!
First, take a look at who will actually be building your house. If it’s your favorite Viebrockhaus, then you can basically forget about your ideas.
If you want a plan to get quotes, that will be enough...
As I said before: I would move the staircase first.

Of course, it has to please me in the end. But when doing something like this for the first time, it’s not a bad idea to accept advice like that. There will be hundreds of things that look good to me in a 2D floor plan — but either won’t work at all or simply don’t make sense... Mistakes will happen, but I’d like to avoid the “easy” ones. By now, there must be some “rules” that have proven to be sensible.

Why shouldn’t I be able to do that with Viebrockhaus? The guy from Viebrockhaus said that inside you can move the walls around however you want — you really just need to decide on the exterior dimensions and roof pitch at the end — that’s how I understood it at least?! Do you think they don’t do it that way at all?
WilderSueden schrieb:

With a 4.50 m (15 feet) eave height, you will only be able to place the shower against the interior wall. So it will need to be redesigned 😉
Also, the showers in your drafts seem quite small compared to the house size. What width are you planning for the shower?

Ah, the eave height... I thought that if you move the shower far enough inside, it would work. The shower in this floor plan is now 1.00 x 1.00 meter (3.3 x 3.3 feet) — before it was 1.20 x 0.90 meter (4 x 3 feet) — these are the sizes found in Viebrockhaus floor plans. In my plan the shower tray is 65 cm (25.5 inches) away from the exterior wall — but I understand that collides with the 2-meter (6.6 feet) line. Not being able to stand in the shower would not be so good 😉
11ant30 Jan 2021 14:01
SaschaL schrieb:

Phew, I thought I would get some praise
At the moment, I don't have any comments on your plans – I see you are in a restless phase. From my understanding of pedagogy, you should first be allowed to explore freely without guidance.
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ypg
30 Jan 2021 15:20
SaschaL schrieb:

But when you’re doing something like this for the first time, it’s definitely wise to take advice like this. There will be 100 things that, looking at a 2D floor plan, I think I would like—but that either won’t work at all or just don’t make sense... Mistakes will happen, but I’d like to avoid the “easy” ones if possible. By now, there should be a few “rules” that have proven to be useful.


Do you want to design your house yourself rather than having an architect do it?
SaschaL schrieb:

The guy from Viebrockhaus said that you can move the interior walls however you want—you basically only have to decide on the exterior dimensions and roof pitch at the end—that’s how I understood it at least?! Do you think they don’t do it that way at all?

What he means is that it’s not a problem to move or remove a wall. And you can definitely shift several walls internally (expand a bathroom by 20cm (8 inches), stretch the utility room wall toward the kitchen by 30cm (12 inches), etc.). But fundamentally, Viebrockhaus only works with their standard house models. For you, this means: choose a house from their catalog and adjust the walls a bit to your liking—but obviously not any load-bearing walls. Viebrockhaus is a general contractor (GC)... I’ve said that before. GCs differ: some are flexible in one area, others in a different one. Where there’s flexibility, mistakes can happen. Viebrockhaus is very conscious of their reputation. That’s why they are less flexible compared to others, for example.
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WilderSueden
30 Jan 2021 15:25
I think I read somewhere in the forum that Viebrockhaus uses drywall partitions on the upper floor. In that case, moving walls would indeed be less of an issue since they are only room dividers.