ᐅ First high open space without knee wall

11ant schrieb:

No, a knee wall actually refers to the opposite: it’s not about lowering the roofline and thus shortening the gable to extend the roof slope into the upper floor, turning it into an attic - but rather about raising the wall plates to make the attic more like a full upper floor with full standing height. From inside the room, a knee wall is essentially a “dormer by other means.” In some regions, one of these approaches is traditionally preferred while the other is so rarely used that the terms for these basically opposite concepts are treated as synonyms. This often leads to confusion when someone says knee wall but means dormer, or vice versa – I’m used to that by now. But I haven’t encountered your misunderstanding of a knee wall as meaning a lowering instead of a raising before. Thanks for that – I always enjoy learning about new misconceptions from everyday language ;-)

Now I’m completely lost... I think I need to google a few terms first :p I’ve never heard of dormer or wall plate before, you never stop learning.

Deadree schrieb:

I've never heard of kneewall and sole plate before.

Show the inside of your attic – then someone can tell you what you have. Purlins are horizontal beams parallel to the eaves on which the rafters rest; the lower ones are called sole plates (because they are near the rafter foot) and rest directly on the ceiling of the topmost floor without a knee wall. The resulting roof slope that reaches down to the floor is not popular in converted attics. In that case, a wall is built under a higher purlin (called a kneewall). Alternatively, the exterior wall of the floor below can be built higher, and the sole plate is supported on top of it (knee wall). The kneewall is becoming less common in building culture. In some regions, traditional knee walls are rare, and there the unfamiliar knee walls are often called kneewalls anyway (which just confuses laypersons even more).

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11ant schrieb:

Show your attic interior – then people can tell you what you have. Purlins are horizontal beams running parallel to the eaves, on which the rafters rest. The lower ones are called sill purlins (because they are near the lower end of the rafters) and rest directly on the ceiling of the top floor without a knee wall. The consequence of a roof slope that reaches down to the floor is usually not appreciated in converted attics. In that case, a wall is installed under another, slightly higher purlin (known as a dwarf wall). Alternatively, the exterior wall of the floor below can be built higher, and the sill purlin then rests on top of it (knee wall). The dwarf wall is becoming less common in building culture. In some areas where knee walls are traditionally rare, these unfamiliar knee walls are often called dwarf walls (which can confuse non-experts).

Currently, I do not have an attic yet, but I will gladly show it by the end of the year.

Steffi33 schrieb:

Our previous house had exactly those two kids’ rooms.. highest point almost 5 meters (16 feet)! I thought it was great

Screw climbing holds to the ceiling and place mats underneath. Kids will definitely enjoy having a bouldering room 😉

Thank you for the feedback. Of course, I meant without the knee wall.

I think for the sake of comfort, it’s necessary to make use of the space as well. Loft bed, swing, climbing wall, and so on.

seniordingdong schrieb:

Of course, I meant without a knee wall.

Whether the straight wall under the slope is a knee wall or a dwarf wall, more or less hip-high, does not affect the spatial impression of the open roof structure. So I thought you were looking for example pictures of king-size high attic rooms where the slopes start right from the floor.

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