ᐅ House electricity consumption – what is your usage?

RotorMotor schrieb:

Well, it does make me a bit sad to see how some people handle energy. But I guess that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The amount of concrete used in the project probably already makes the electricity consumption look insignificant. Hopefully at least a large photovoltaic system is included.

What a superficial nonsense. Regarding @rick2018’s idea with the mirror... I’m handing out mirrors for free. We all fail the test, row by row... EVERYONE (including me)! Although I would confidently claim, without knowing you, that my ecological footprint is probably much smaller compared to yours... but still too large. We’ve had this discussion many times already, and suddenly some very unpleasant things were found about these missionary hobby environmentalists... and just like that... discussion over 😀

Zaba12 schrieb:


- Hot water 48°C (118°F), hysteresis 7K (7°C / 13°F)

So, your heat pump heats the hot water up to 55°C (131°F)?

I have never claimed that my/our ecological footprint is small. I am aware of that.
Maybe over generations it will be, since there won’t be any more after us.
Our realized dream house is clearly a waste of resources. Nevertheless, many parts of it were designed to be “efficient.” I also eat meat and occasionally fly on vacation.

rick2018 schrieb:

So feel free to say that the electricity consumption is high.

Okay, then I guess we basically agree. :-)

Since the rest has little to do with the topic, but I started it, I’ll put the rest here:

> When will your house construction start?
Hopefully soon, but why does the timing matter?

> How big will it be?
Planned at about 40m² (430 sq ft) per person, and you? ;-)

> What percentage of the plot will be built on?
Around 15%.
I would have expected that a smaller footprint is generally better, but why does a percentage of your own plot matter?

> Possibly wasting space?
Maybe!

> Wouldn’t a single-family house still fit on it?
According to the development plan, everything is built out, but would that be an advantage or disadvantage for the environment?

> You plan to have children. That causes significantly higher resource consumption.
If my children are average, my child and I together will still only use about one-fifth of what you do, right?

> Do you see what I mean?
Yes, we all consume resources.
But does having 10 times the money mean having to consume 10 times the resources?
You could afford to protect the environment too. :-)

But please don’t take it personally, the boredom caused by the pandemic apparently has me occupied with things that I usually wouldn’t care about, or that are too political for a thread on electricity consumption. ;-)

pagoni2020 schrieb:

What superficial nonsense.

My comment referred to indifference.
Calling a household electricity consumption that is 10 times higher than average “low” apparently triggered me briefly.
Maybe I just misunderstood and it wasn’t meant as “we are very economical” but rather “we had expected it to be even worse”?

But on the topic of mirrors:
Sure, here in the house building forum we all impact the environment, so I guess I’ll belong to that group soon too.

rick2018 schrieb:

I never claimed that my/our ecological footprint is small. I am aware of that.
Maybe over generations, since there won’t be any others after us.
Our realized dream house is clearly a waste of resources. Still, many parts were designed to be “efficient.” I also eat meat and sometimes fly on vacation.

I don’t think any explanation will get through, and it’s not really necessary.
Beautiful architecture deserves the same recognition as art, or should I complain that all these hobby painters waste millions of liters of paint? Such discussions are pointless; just being online is already an ecological nonsense, not to mention the components in the devices… well, what am I saying.
You built a great house and created interesting and lasting architecture. When many stuffy “eco subdivision houses” have turned to dust, yours will still stand. I don’t know you, but I really like the project—would love to see more like it.
I lived in a country without beautiful architecture, and over time I missed it, even though I wasn’t aware of that before. It’s good that there are people who spend their money on that instead of on other nonsense.
I experienced real ecologists in places where people were poor. They often lived on Nestlé products because of upbringing or lack of alternatives and sometimes buried plastic in their gardens, but their entire way of life was ecological because they simply had no other choice. That applies to exactly zero percent of this forum’s readers, whether people want to admit it or not.
To some extent, the saying could apply here: “If everyone thinks of themselves, everyone is taken care of.”
Instead of acting like a know-it-all, everyone should consider their own lives and those of their loved ones with some humility. There is always enough to sort out—more than enough!

NicolasH schrieb:

So your heat pump heats the domestic hot water up to 55 degrees?

No, for domestic hot water it is only -7K, not like the HVAC setpoint with ±2K.