Hello,
I am sharing the floor plan as we have developed it. Perhaps there are some suggestions?
The dimensions are interior room sizes, with a wall thickness of 10 cm (4 inches) assumed. Depending on the actual wall thickness, adjustments will be necessary.
Plot size: 1200 sqm (12,917 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio / plot ratio: unknown, but not important
Building permit / planning permission, building line and boundary: there is no development plan; the new house will stand where our current house is (only the distance to the neighbor must be increased to 3 m (10 feet)), which according to the responsible building authority is no problem
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: garages already exist and will remain
Number of floors: bungalow, single story
Roof type: gable or hip roof
Style?
Orientation: roof facing east-west
Other constraints: the plot is only about 16 m (52 feet) wide, so the house must not be wider than about 10 m (33 feet) in this direction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: bungalow, preferably gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, only 1 floor, storage room in the attic
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, 55 and 58
Space needs on the ground floor: about 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office: no
Overnight guests per year: 2 grandchildren occasionally, father occasionally
Open or closed layout?
Conservative or modern construction: rather conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen
Number of dining places: 4
Fireplace: yes, definitely
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: already existing
Utility garden, greenhouse: garden already established
House design
Designed by:
- Do-It-Yourself, created based on various templates
What do you like most? Why?: large window front on the south side with direct access to the garden
What do you not like? Why?
- Corner in the hallway between utility room and bedroom, but the hallway should remain large to avoid bumping into each other and to have enough space for motorbike gear,
- I would prefer the fireplace positioned more in the corner between kitchen and living area, but that conflicts with neighbor distance regulations and emissions protection
Price estimate according to architect/planner: initial offers are around €190,000 for about 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft), but changes are still needed
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: should not exceed €200,000 plus additional construction costs; equipment is already taken care of
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler, since gas supply is already connected
If you had to give up anything, which details/expansions
- Could you give up: nothing
- Cannot give up: underfloor heating, large window front, fireplace
Why did the design turn out as it is?
All wishes were implemented as far as possible
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Is there anything that doesn’t work at all? Any room for improvement? What would you do differently? Where could it be optimized?
I am sharing the floor plan as we have developed it. Perhaps there are some suggestions?
The dimensions are interior room sizes, with a wall thickness of 10 cm (4 inches) assumed. Depending on the actual wall thickness, adjustments will be necessary.
Plot size: 1200 sqm (12,917 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio / plot ratio: unknown, but not important
Building permit / planning permission, building line and boundary: there is no development plan; the new house will stand where our current house is (only the distance to the neighbor must be increased to 3 m (10 feet)), which according to the responsible building authority is no problem
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: garages already exist and will remain
Number of floors: bungalow, single story
Roof type: gable or hip roof
Style?
Orientation: roof facing east-west
Other constraints: the plot is only about 16 m (52 feet) wide, so the house must not be wider than about 10 m (33 feet) in this direction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: bungalow, preferably gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, only 1 floor, storage room in the attic
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, 55 and 58
Space needs on the ground floor: about 100 sqm (1,076 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office: no
Overnight guests per year: 2 grandchildren occasionally, father occasionally
Open or closed layout?
Conservative or modern construction: rather conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: open kitchen
Number of dining places: 4
Fireplace: yes, definitely
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: already existing
Utility garden, greenhouse: garden already established
House design
Designed by:
- Do-It-Yourself, created based on various templates
What do you like most? Why?: large window front on the south side with direct access to the garden
What do you not like? Why?
- Corner in the hallway between utility room and bedroom, but the hallway should remain large to avoid bumping into each other and to have enough space for motorbike gear,
- I would prefer the fireplace positioned more in the corner between kitchen and living area, but that conflicts with neighbor distance regulations and emissions protection
Price estimate according to architect/planner: initial offers are around €190,000 for about 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft), but changes are still needed
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: should not exceed €200,000 plus additional construction costs; equipment is already taken care of
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler, since gas supply is already connected
If you had to give up anything, which details/expansions
- Could you give up: nothing
- Cannot give up: underfloor heating, large window front, fireplace
Why did the design turn out as it is?
All wishes were implemented as far as possible
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Is there anything that doesn’t work at all? Any room for improvement? What would you do differently? Where could it be optimized?
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motorradsilke16 Dec 2020 15:46Nida35a schrieb:
@motorradsilke
I sketched two boxes for 1 meter (3.3 feet),
and 9–9.5 meters (30–31 feet) wide, about 13 meters (43 feet) long inside.
We have 15 meters (49 feet) length, and you can use the 2 meters (6.6 feet) for the hallway,
so the assumed motorcycle could also fit in there.The motorcycles already have their own building.
But we need space for the gear. Our hallway is quite narrow right now, and that’s frustrating. There’s no room for motorcycle equipment, especially when it’s wet, and no proper space to dress and undress comfortably. We need to have some space for that.
I also don’t like open wardrobes but prefer closets.
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motorradsilke16 Dec 2020 15:55pagoni2020 schrieb:
I see it the same way; you can create a "worst-case scenario" for any project, which then "justifies" the respective measure. I have lived very well in the house for 30 years without a garage/carport because it was converted into an office.
I don’t recall any such "worst-case scenario."
Hmm... I actually like that the bedroom comes AFTER the living room because it moves it away from the busier hallway. Usually, that "traffic flow" doesn’t happen much, so I think you might be looking at it a bit too negatively. The bedroom door opens off the living area in a two-person household... I find that We are motorcyclists and often come home wet. From my perspective, it would be better if I could go directly into the utility room and leave the wet clothes there. Also, I would like to carry the washed laundry from the utility room outside to the drying area.
I don’t really need to put laundry to dry inside because it either goes outside or into the dryer.
The bedroom should actually stay where it is because it’s the most weather-appropriate room; it’s always cool there, even in the high summer.
We currently have it in that spot and actually don’t find it bad.
But I will take your idea to review our daily routines again and try sketching something out.
I would see it as difficult to put wet items there.
Taking off wet clothes by the front door, then going to the utility room and opening the door from the inside would make both the hallway and utility room wet. It would be better to take off clothes in the hallway, hang them in the guest bathroom shower with a floor drain, quickly dry mop the hallway, and that’s it.
Taking off wet clothes by the front door, then going to the utility room and opening the door from the inside would make both the hallway and utility room wet. It would be better to take off clothes in the hallway, hang them in the guest bathroom shower with a floor drain, quickly dry mop the hallway, and that’s it.
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motorradsilke16 Dec 2020 17:14Nida35a schrieb:
I would see it as problematic to leave wet items there.
Taking off wet clothes at the front door, then going to the utility room and opening its door from the inside means both the hallway and utility room get wet. It would be better to take off clothes in the hallway, hang them in the guest bathroom shower with a floor drain, quickly dry the hallway, and that’s it. The door to the utility room is supposed to open from the outside as well. The idea is to leave the wet items directly in the utility room, so no dirt is carried into the living area.
motorradsilke schrieb:
We are motorcyclists, so we often come home wet. From my point of view, it would be better if I could go straight to the utility room and leave the wet clothes there. But you do have a hallway to come in, take off your clothes, etc. … think about what you really need the utility room for and what you plan to store there.
Take a look at the pinned posts in this subforum, there is a list of what is typically stored in a utility room besides the technical equipment.
The main purpose of the utility room, besides storage, is to clean laundry. And you want to turn it into a dirty area.
motorradsilke schrieb:
I don’t actually need to put laundry to dry in there; it either goes outside or into the dryer. There are items that should not go into the dryer, such as woolens or sportswear … for those, ideally you have a small drying rack. Of course, everyone has their own ideas and ways of using the space, so you’re right about that. My advice would be to carefully consider whether, for example, a room that doesn’t have much visual presence (a guest room) should be placed in the center of the house. I would make the utility room more accessible as a storage and household area. Laundry can also be taken out through the front or terrace door. The house won’t be that large anyway. Your current plan lays out the daily routine moving away from the entrance, with the private zone (guest room <-> guest WC, bedroom <-> bathroom) arranged so that people walk by the front door and through the main hallway.
motorradsilke schrieb:
The bedroom should actually stay where it is. I agree that this is a good location.
Ultimately, you have to decide for yourselves how to build. A 100 m² (1,076 sq ft) bungalow for two is not rocket science, and the plot is suitable for a nice house with a pitched roof. Even the slender shape is very suitable.
Everyone should be able to live out their own needs in their home, but first and foremost comes protecting the private space and bringing daily life and hobbies under one roof. From my perspective, building around the outer door inside a quite small utility room doesn’t support this.
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