ᐅ Counting a Covered Terrace as Livable Space?

Created on: 6 Dec 2020 20:31
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KonstantinW
Hello everyone,

We are currently at the stage in our planning where we have submitted the building notification. The city now states that the terrace roof, being a separate structural element, cannot be included in the calculation of the number of floors. Inclusion is only possible if the roof is clearly part of the house structure, for example, a shed roof or extended ceiling slabs.

Since the building regulations do not allow for two full stories, we wanted to reach that value using this terrace.

Now, my question: Are there any additional options beyond the two mentioned above that would allow this to count toward the living area?

Attached are the floor plan of the ground floor and rear and side elevations.

Regards,
KonstantinW

South and west facade of a two-story house with flat roof and garage extension.


Floor plan of a residential house with living room, kitchen, dining area, bedroom, bathroom, and garage.
11ant7 Dec 2020 17:07
Please also show the cross-section.
KonstantinW schrieb:

So the roof pitch in our case can be a maximum of 15° (degrees).

That is unusual – are you sure this isn’t a misunderstanding?
KonstantinW schrieb:

And we don’t want sloped ceilings.

Then they will have to be lower.
KonstantinW schrieb:

That’s why we also needed the solution with the terrace.

You won’t get that.
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Ysop***
7 Dec 2020 18:01
Maybe @Escroda can offer some advice? However, I would say that your ideas probably won’t work and you won’t achieve a full additional story. Especially if you don’t want a setback or recessed upper floor. In my opinion, the terrace would have to become a proper extension. But I’m not an expert on this. I’m more surprised that other cities allow something like this.
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KonstantinW
7 Dec 2020 19:34
Ysop*** schrieb:

Maybe @Escroda has some advice? However, I would say that your ideas won’t work and you won’t achieve a full additional floor. Especially if you don’t want a setback floor. In my opinion, the terrace would need to be converted into a proper extension. But I’m not an expert in this. I’m more surprised that other cities approve something like this.

I just registered yesterday, so I can’t start a conversation yet :/
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Tassimat
7 Dec 2020 19:56
Is the city official someone you can talk to? They should be able to provide you with the relevant sections of the building code and directly tell you which types they generally recognize or accept and which they do not at all. With some luck, this can lead to a quick agreement with the city. Use the consultation hours or call them.

Otherwise, you will have to take the more difficult route of referring to specific sections of the building code and various implementation guidelines, and back up your calculations in detail with a concrete legal basis.
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sascha-t4-le
7 Dec 2020 22:14
If this actually passes, I’ll eat a broom.
In Hesse, it is or could be possible to count the garage towards the number of stories of the upper floor, but as the saying goes, the garage must be integrated into the building and visually form a single unit (quote forgotten).
The way you are planning it, it won’t work with the garage.
11ant7 Dec 2020 22:46
KonstantinW schrieb:

cannot start a conversation yet
... but can respond to my post #13 ;-)
sascha-t4-le schrieb:

In Hesse, the garage can or could be counted as part of the number of floors of the upper floor, but, as it is said, the garage must be integrated into the building and appear as a visual unit,
I suspect, however, that it would not be allowed to be built on the property boundary (?)
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