Hello everyone,
We are currently building a single-family house turnkey through a local construction company. Basically, the price includes a fully tiled ground floor, a tiled staircase, and, of course, the bathroom.
We have now selected tiles, and for the hallway as well as the living and dining areas, approximately 50 sqm (540 sq ft), plus the staircase (22 sqm (240 sq ft)), these tiles are larger format and also more expensive. However, the other tiles are even slightly (not worth mentioning) cheaper than the price quoted by the builder.
The additional material cost comes to just under 5000 euros. Unfortunately, the tile dealer only told us the net tile price, otherwise, at 95 euros per sqm (9 dollars per sq ft), I probably would have reconsidered. But now we have fallen in love with the tile since it really looks like wood.
Additionally, there are about 1000 euros for extra tiling in the utility room (which I find completely reasonable and expected).
Also, it was clear to me that laying the larger-format tiles would cost more.
That's why I generously calculated additional costs of 7000-8000 euros (although I estimated somewhat lower material costs).
But…
the quote really shocked me.
Almost 12,000 euros.
About 35 euros per sqm (3.25 dollars per sq ft) extra for installing the large-format tiles, I think they are 120 x 20 cm (47 x 8 inches).
Plus about 7 euros per meter (2 dollars per foot) for water jet cutting.
Additionally, the tiles we thought were standard rectified tiles, and the tiler charges about 23 euros per sqm (2.15 dollars per sq ft) extra for installing them.
There are stainless steel edge profiles instead of the included plastic edge profiles, but on top of the material cost increase, an additional around 33 euros per meter (10 dollars per foot) is charged for installation.
(The approximately because I did not convert the prices exactly from net to gross.)
The extra costs seem very high to me, also compared to what I have read online. Or is this actually realistic?
The posts I found were already quite old.
We are currently building a single-family house turnkey through a local construction company. Basically, the price includes a fully tiled ground floor, a tiled staircase, and, of course, the bathroom.
We have now selected tiles, and for the hallway as well as the living and dining areas, approximately 50 sqm (540 sq ft), plus the staircase (22 sqm (240 sq ft)), these tiles are larger format and also more expensive. However, the other tiles are even slightly (not worth mentioning) cheaper than the price quoted by the builder.
The additional material cost comes to just under 5000 euros. Unfortunately, the tile dealer only told us the net tile price, otherwise, at 95 euros per sqm (9 dollars per sq ft), I probably would have reconsidered. But now we have fallen in love with the tile since it really looks like wood.
Additionally, there are about 1000 euros for extra tiling in the utility room (which I find completely reasonable and expected).
Also, it was clear to me that laying the larger-format tiles would cost more.
That's why I generously calculated additional costs of 7000-8000 euros (although I estimated somewhat lower material costs).
But…
the quote really shocked me.
Almost 12,000 euros.
About 35 euros per sqm (3.25 dollars per sq ft) extra for installing the large-format tiles, I think they are 120 x 20 cm (47 x 8 inches).
Plus about 7 euros per meter (2 dollars per foot) for water jet cutting.
Additionally, the tiles we thought were standard rectified tiles, and the tiler charges about 23 euros per sqm (2.15 dollars per sq ft) extra for installing them.
There are stainless steel edge profiles instead of the included plastic edge profiles, but on top of the material cost increase, an additional around 33 euros per meter (10 dollars per foot) is charged for installation.
(The approximately because I did not convert the prices exactly from net to gross.)
The extra costs seem very high to me, also compared to what I have read online. Or is this actually realistic?
The posts I found were already quite old.
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hampshire3 Dec 2020 13:41Silvia79 schrieb:
I have two small children, unfortunately one of them comes with a few special effects.You expressed that perfectly!!! I will remember that.Silvia79 schrieb:
Okay, hmm, it seems we really paid a lot for our parquet flooring—90 euros per square meter (about $95 per square yard) from the home improvement store, without installation—and my father-in-law got a sky-high price at 180 euros (about $190) including installation.
Parquet is not an option for us.
But I want the look.
Everything else is my problem.
This is off-topic for the current discussion. Don’t worry, this always happens when wood-look tiles come up. Afterwards, people discuss how kids aren’t raised properly because they don’t take care of their parents’ property. This has been read here many times already.
The fact is, no matter how good or expensive parquet is, it would already look terrible in our dining room after 1.5 years because the children have no chance of lifting the heavy dining chairs when sliding them, and the felt pads underneath don’t stick.
Any wear and tear will go in that direction. The floor underneath is open, so there’s no way to mix or fix spots. We considered this for weeks but gave up as it was only a makeshift solution. If I had to do it, I would have borrowed money here to avoid compromises. After all, I don’t want to think for 20 years about how it should have been.
…and no, I don’t want the floor to show signs of everyday life, looking after 1.5 years like others’ floors look after 10 years. That’s exactly why we chose wood-look tiles throughout the entire ground floor and partly in the upper floor, so it has a cozy, warm character without sacrificing the desired durability.
There are photos floating around here...
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nordanney3 Dec 2020 13:50Silvia79 schrieb:
But I want the look.
Everything else is my problem. Then accept the additional costs quoted or remove the entire trade and hope for an appropriate credit. Then find your own tiler – and hope to save money.
There are no other alternatives.
I’m not trying to push you towards hardwood flooring either. But your fixed preferences and the resulting lack of alternatives probably come at a cost.
I have nothing against wood-look tiles. I would even prefer them because I think they offer more "character" in terms of appearance. I need tiles in terms of material, as the pets and children here would put too much strain on an affordable hardwood floor, and I’m concerned that the efficiency of the underfloor heating would suffer. I won’t choose wood-look because I’m yielding to my wife’s taste here. Somehow she has to be involved if I’m paying for everything and doing the work myself; otherwise, this won’t be our house.
I also assert that good hardwood flooring is on the one hand more expensive than tiles, but on the other hand, at the price mentioned here, it would definitely be possible to get (even solid wood planks). I believe your general contractor or the tiler is trying to squeeze some money out of you with what I see as questionable arguments. However, it’s unrealistic to expect them to lower the price again. It’s simply a seller’s market right now. If I were you, I would either settle for different tiles from their selection or remove that trade entirely. However, through my experience with general contractors, I have become somewhat hardened to removing trades (windows, stairs, doors, probably heating & plumbing). In fact, I still can’t say whether that’s really a good idea, since the self-performed trades have not yet taken place. The risk of scheduling difficulties and thus delays, as well as issues with warranty claims at interfaces ("The screed installer did it wrong" – "No, your tiler!") are possible! Whether you really save money that way also requires some research... So it’s something to consider carefully before taking this step.
I also assert that good hardwood flooring is on the one hand more expensive than tiles, but on the other hand, at the price mentioned here, it would definitely be possible to get (even solid wood planks). I believe your general contractor or the tiler is trying to squeeze some money out of you with what I see as questionable arguments. However, it’s unrealistic to expect them to lower the price again. It’s simply a seller’s market right now. If I were you, I would either settle for different tiles from their selection or remove that trade entirely. However, through my experience with general contractors, I have become somewhat hardened to removing trades (windows, stairs, doors, probably heating & plumbing). In fact, I still can’t say whether that’s really a good idea, since the self-performed trades have not yet taken place. The risk of scheduling difficulties and thus delays, as well as issues with warranty claims at interfaces ("The screed installer did it wrong" – "No, your tiler!") are possible! Whether you really save money that way also requires some research... So it’s something to consider carefully before taking this step.
Tolentino schrieb:
I won’t go with a wood look because I’m giving in to my wife’s taste here. She has to have some say since I’m paying for everything and doing the labor myself; otherwise, it won’t be our house. Refreshingly honest *Top*
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