ᐅ Plot of Land – Ideas and Considerations for Orientation and Zoning Plan
Created on: 26 Oct 2020 17:32
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_Yv_St_
Hello,
we have made it to the final candidates for a plot of land. Since it is not one of the plots we prioritized in the residential area (3 were allowed to be named), we initially did not consider these plots.
We would appreciate suggestions on how to make efficient use of this rather small plot, to help us decide if the plot is suitable for us in case we are awarded the bid. We are laypeople, and our first idea might not be optimal – perhaps someone here has good ideas and arguments, possibly also for a more westerly orientation?
Our idea: as narrow and wide as possible (e.g., 7m x 12m (23 ft x 39 ft)), with large windows facing SSE, positioning the living room and children’s rooms towards the garden, set as far north as possible so there is still some garden left. Is it advantageous (lower cost) to simply build a pitched roof, or is it better to use the space under the roof – for example, as a sleeping loft for the children’s rooms or as a workspace?
It is not yet known how the neighbor on the adjacent western plot will build, but the plot has a comparable shape.
The orientation of the plan view is north-oriented. Access to the plot is from the north via the planned street (6m wide (20 ft), without a sidewalk, serving only as an access road for about 15 adjacent plots); to the south there is a footpath. On the opposite side of the footpath, there is undeveloped green space up to existing buildings.
The plot measures 18m x 22m (59 ft x 72 ft) (long side parallel to the street), approx. 406 m² (4,370 sq ft). A 2.5m (8 ft) setback is required on the north and south sides. The development plan allows for two full stories and a pitched roof with a 30–40° slope.
We want to build for a family of four (estimated 130–150 m² (1,400–1,615 sq ft) of living space) and have the following space requirements:
Ground floor:
- Living-cooking-dining: as open as possible with a large kitchen island, separation from hallway possible
- Guest room: should also be usable as a bedroom if needed (at least 12 m² (130 sq ft)), preferably accessible from the hallway
- Guest bathroom: with shower, suitable as a full bathroom
- Entrance area
Upper floor:
- Two children’s rooms: minimum 12 m² (130 sq ft), preferably 13 m² (140 sq ft) or more, as equal in size as possible
- Bedroom: space for a 2.5 m (8 ft) wardrobe, not oversized
- Bathroom: WC integrated or separate, not oversized (currently we have 8 m² (86 sq ft) without WC, but with washer and dryer)
- Study or open workspace
Basement:
- Laundry room
- Hobby room
- Workshop
- Utility/technical room
Garage (two parking spaces are mandatory and we own two cars):
- 1 garage
- 1 carport / parking space
I hope I have covered all the necessary details.
Thank you in advance!
we have made it to the final candidates for a plot of land. Since it is not one of the plots we prioritized in the residential area (3 were allowed to be named), we initially did not consider these plots.
We would appreciate suggestions on how to make efficient use of this rather small plot, to help us decide if the plot is suitable for us in case we are awarded the bid. We are laypeople, and our first idea might not be optimal – perhaps someone here has good ideas and arguments, possibly also for a more westerly orientation?
Our idea: as narrow and wide as possible (e.g., 7m x 12m (23 ft x 39 ft)), with large windows facing SSE, positioning the living room and children’s rooms towards the garden, set as far north as possible so there is still some garden left. Is it advantageous (lower cost) to simply build a pitched roof, or is it better to use the space under the roof – for example, as a sleeping loft for the children’s rooms or as a workspace?
It is not yet known how the neighbor on the adjacent western plot will build, but the plot has a comparable shape.
The orientation of the plan view is north-oriented. Access to the plot is from the north via the planned street (6m wide (20 ft), without a sidewalk, serving only as an access road for about 15 adjacent plots); to the south there is a footpath. On the opposite side of the footpath, there is undeveloped green space up to existing buildings.
The plot measures 18m x 22m (59 ft x 72 ft) (long side parallel to the street), approx. 406 m² (4,370 sq ft). A 2.5m (8 ft) setback is required on the north and south sides. The development plan allows for two full stories and a pitched roof with a 30–40° slope.
We want to build for a family of four (estimated 130–150 m² (1,400–1,615 sq ft) of living space) and have the following space requirements:
Ground floor:
- Living-cooking-dining: as open as possible with a large kitchen island, separation from hallway possible
- Guest room: should also be usable as a bedroom if needed (at least 12 m² (130 sq ft)), preferably accessible from the hallway
- Guest bathroom: with shower, suitable as a full bathroom
- Entrance area
Upper floor:
- Two children’s rooms: minimum 12 m² (130 sq ft), preferably 13 m² (140 sq ft) or more, as equal in size as possible
- Bedroom: space for a 2.5 m (8 ft) wardrobe, not oversized
- Bathroom: WC integrated or separate, not oversized (currently we have 8 m² (86 sq ft) without WC, but with washer and dryer)
- Study or open workspace
Basement:
- Laundry room
- Hobby room
- Workshop
- Utility/technical room
Garage (two parking spaces are mandatory and we own two cars):
- 1 garage
- 1 carport / parking space
I hope I have covered all the necessary details.
Thank you in advance!
I would also prefer the house to be long and narrow, but rather 8 x 11 m (26 x 36 ft) instead of 7 x 12 m (23 x 39 ft). With 7 meters (23 ft), the floor plan is more challenging because it’s hard to fit two decent rooms side by side. After subtracting the walls, each room would be just under 3 m (10 ft) wide. And you might not really notice that extra meter in the garden. I would place a single garage only on the east side and add another parking space in front of or to the west side of the house. This can be done without its own access path, meaning it can be directly adjacent to the street. Then the house can be shifted further east, and you benefit from a nice west-facing garden. How far you position the house from the street is up to you. If I had all living and sleeping rooms facing the garden, I would build as close to the street as possible. Even an area of 2.5 x x meters (feet) can accommodate many flowering perennials.
Würfel* schrieb:
I would also envision the house as long and narrow, but rather than 7 x 12 m (23 x 39 ft), make it more like 8 x 11 m (26 x 36 ft). With 7 meters (23 ft), the floor plan is more difficult because you hardly get two decent rooms side by side. After subtracting walls, they only have about 3 m (10 ft) in width. And you don’t necessarily notice the extra meter in the garden. You will definitely feel a shortage of one meter inside the house more painfully than you will enjoy having it in the garden. A 7 x 12 m (23 x 39 ft) compared to 8 x 11 m (26 x 36 ft) is roughly a ratio of 1.71:1 versus 1.38:1, meaning that seven by twelve conceptually creates a “single-axis” house (for a rough idea, Google “linear village” compared to “cluster village”), similar to a courtyard house with one roof or – which you would have to be crazy to build as a detached building – similar to a terraced middle house (not quite a “bowling alley,” but not far from it either). Without a constraint like a tight building plot, I would not limit myself to such a format when planning, but rather develop the floor plan freely first.
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Sorry for the delayed response!
Thank you all for your feedback! We are confident that we can create something beautiful on the plot.
In the meantime, we have also received approval for the plot :-)
We have been considering placing the house, approximately 8 m (26 feet) in size, in the far northeast corner for some time now, and we really like that idea. We also like the layout of the garage and parking space.
However, since we don’t want to go into the first planning meeting with fixed ideas, we have done a lot of sketches and looked at plans and floor layouts, but nothing too concrete yet. We have our first appointment next week and are looking forward to it.
Best regards
Thank you all for your feedback! We are confident that we can create something beautiful on the plot.
In the meantime, we have also received approval for the plot :-)
We have been considering placing the house, approximately 8 m (26 feet) in size, in the far northeast corner for some time now, and we really like that idea. We also like the layout of the garage and parking space.
However, since we don’t want to go into the first planning meeting with fixed ideas, we have done a lot of sketches and looked at plans and floor layouts, but nothing too concrete yet. We have our first appointment next week and are looking forward to it.
Best regards
_Yv_St_ schrieb:
to attend an initial planning meeting [...] We have a first appointment next weekWith whom?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
With a local timber builder I had a nice conversation with years ago at a trade fair.
As far as I remember, they usually work with an architect but have in-house staff who can handle the planning.
We want to build a compact house with simple, clear shapes. That’s why I would prefer the planner to have construction knowledge... either someone directly from the timber builder or an architect who ideally has carpentry experience... we will start with the first option to get initial feedback and a price for our requirements, and to discuss where it makes sense for us to contribute work ourselves, what principles we should consider during the planning stage to avoid cost traps, but also to find out if some of our current ideas might actually not be much more expensive...
In the meantime, we’ve had the idea to open up the rooms on the upper floor all the way up to the roof, possibly extending this over the hallway as well, and to create a second level in the children’s room. This would result in a spacious children’s room despite a small floor area... but these are just ideas for now...
We are certain we need a basement. However, whether it would be possible to use a basement room as a living space, and what energetic and other implications this might have... we also want to discuss this with someone.
As far as I remember, they usually work with an architect but have in-house staff who can handle the planning.
We want to build a compact house with simple, clear shapes. That’s why I would prefer the planner to have construction knowledge... either someone directly from the timber builder or an architect who ideally has carpentry experience... we will start with the first option to get initial feedback and a price for our requirements, and to discuss where it makes sense for us to contribute work ourselves, what principles we should consider during the planning stage to avoid cost traps, but also to find out if some of our current ideas might actually not be much more expensive...
In the meantime, we’ve had the idea to open up the rooms on the upper floor all the way up to the roof, possibly extending this over the hallway as well, and to create a second level in the children’s room. This would result in a spacious children’s room despite a small floor area... but these are just ideas for now...
We are certain we need a basement. However, whether it would be possible to use a basement room as a living space, and what energetic and other implications this might have... we also want to discuss this with someone.
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