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KlausBautHaus30 Oct 2020 22:01Hello everyone,
We are planning to build in the near future and have already reserved the plot. Unfortunately, there is no access road yet, and we have not chosen a builder yet.
We would really appreciate your help and feedback.
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 816m² (9850 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see image
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 1 full floor
Roof type: "[...] only pitched roofs with slopes between 18° and 48° permitted. Barrel and (half) arched roofs are not permitted. Shed roofs are only allowed if built as double-pitched roofs with slopes in opposite directions. Offset roof surfaces are allowed."
Architectural style
Orientation: ridge from west to east
Maximum heights / limits: max. building height = 9.5m (31 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ requirements
Style, roof form, building type: We want a kind of gable roof; everything else is quite flexible
Basement, floors: Partial basement for technical equipment, office, and storage. Preferably fully underground so no stairs in front of the entrance
Number of occupants, ages: Expected 4 (2 adults in their mid-30s, 2 children under 4)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Upper floor: large children’s rooms, decent main bathroom, preferably with a walk-in closet;
Ground floor: moderately large kitchen, bathroom with shower, utility room with space for storage
Office: also for home office
Guests per year: about 5 visits with 2 guests each
Open or closed layout: rather open
Conservative or modern architecture: doesn’t matter
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open
Number of dining seats: 1 table for 6, or 8 if squeezing together
Fireplace: possibly later an ethanol wall fireplace (where the piano currently stands)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: small vegetable garden
Additional wishes / special needs / daily routine, including reasons for preferences
House design
Who created the design:
- Do-it-yourself, partially based on builders' designs
What do you especially like? Why? I am basically happy with every room.
What do you dislike? Why? The bathroom on the upper floor is a bit tight? With only 1 full floor and 1.64m (5 ft 4 in) knee wall height and a resulting 18° roof slope, we wouldn’t have usable attic space :\
Price estimate according to architect/designer:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 300,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to skip anything, which details/extras
- can you live without: sewing room; basement if there is an adequate solution for technical equipment and storage
- cannot do without: shower on ground floor, enough space in kitchen and utility room
Why is the design the way it is? For example:
Studied hundreds of floor plans and adapted the layout to the plot and our needs/preferences
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Is the house design reasonably feasible or are there major issues / deal breakers?
Is it okay to show such a design to various builders and ask for a rough cost estimate?
Many thanks in advance to all hardworking helpers





We are planning to build in the near future and have already reserved the plot. Unfortunately, there is no access road yet, and we have not chosen a builder yet.
We would really appreciate your help and feedback.
Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 816m² (9850 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: -
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see image
Edge development:
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: max. 1 full floor
Roof type: "[...] only pitched roofs with slopes between 18° and 48° permitted. Barrel and (half) arched roofs are not permitted. Shed roofs are only allowed if built as double-pitched roofs with slopes in opposite directions. Offset roof surfaces are allowed."
Architectural style
Orientation: ridge from west to east
Maximum heights / limits: max. building height = 9.5m (31 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ requirements
Style, roof form, building type: We want a kind of gable roof; everything else is quite flexible
Basement, floors: Partial basement for technical equipment, office, and storage. Preferably fully underground so no stairs in front of the entrance
Number of occupants, ages: Expected 4 (2 adults in their mid-30s, 2 children under 4)
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Upper floor: large children’s rooms, decent main bathroom, preferably with a walk-in closet;
Ground floor: moderately large kitchen, bathroom with shower, utility room with space for storage
Office: also for home office
Guests per year: about 5 visits with 2 guests each
Open or closed layout: rather open
Conservative or modern architecture: doesn’t matter
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open
Number of dining seats: 1 table for 6, or 8 if squeezing together
Fireplace: possibly later an ethanol wall fireplace (where the piano currently stands)
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: small vegetable garden
Additional wishes / special needs / daily routine, including reasons for preferences
House design
Who created the design:
- Do-it-yourself, partially based on builders' designs
What do you especially like? Why? I am basically happy with every room.
What do you dislike? Why? The bathroom on the upper floor is a bit tight? With only 1 full floor and 1.64m (5 ft 4 in) knee wall height and a resulting 18° roof slope, we wouldn’t have usable attic space :\
Price estimate according to architect/designer:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 300,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to skip anything, which details/extras
- can you live without: sewing room; basement if there is an adequate solution for technical equipment and storage
- cannot do without: shower on ground floor, enough space in kitchen and utility room
Why is the design the way it is? For example:
Studied hundreds of floor plans and adapted the layout to the plot and our needs/preferences
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
Is the house design reasonably feasible or are there major issues / deal breakers?
Is it okay to show such a design to various builders and ask for a rough cost estimate?
Many thanks in advance to all hardworking helpers
ypg schrieb:
This idea looks familiar to me. Well, it hasn’t been for me so far. Advantage ypg
KlausBautHaus schrieb:
Partly based on designs from construction companies. A mixed bag, I assume—assembled by Master Frankenstein. Once you get upstairs, you end up with a counter-twisted headache. There are partial basements that at least save considerably less than expected—this one at best saves nothing and might even become more expensive than a full basement.
KlausBautHaus schrieb:
Could you throw a design like this over the fence to different builders and ask for a rough cost estimate? Only if you want to be just as clueless afterward as before. On this basis, I expect a result ranging from “roughly” to “who knows,” and given the floor area of roughly 120 m² (1,292 sq ft), even the lowest estimate will probably blow you away.
KlausBautHaus schrieb:
Is the house reasonably feasible or are there any dealbreakers? In my view, it is in fact a top-tier dealbreaker in terms of buildability and doesn’t need a formal technical rejection to be dismissed. I don’t mean a single word of this comment to be harsh—just take a look around here a bit. In this case, I’m honestly unsure which thread I’d recommend you start reading first.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
Wow, not for me so far. Advantage ypg Green, from 29.9.
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saralina8731 Oct 2020 01:42300,000? Never ever ever ever.
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