ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, approximately 200 sqm – comments welcome
Created on: 22 Oct 2020 21:24
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Carlotte
Dear forum,
After spending hours as silent readers in this forum, my partner and I are now ready to share our floor plan for your feedback.
First, here is the questionnaire:
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1322 sqm (approx. 14,230 sq ft); about 23 x 56 m (75 x 184 ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Floor area ratio: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Edge development: No, only carport/garage and garden shed or storage shed allowed
Number of parking spaces: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Number of stories: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Roof style: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Design style: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Orientation: corner plot approx. 23 x 56 m, streets to the north and west
Maximum height/restrictions: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Other requirements: none
Client Requirements
Design style, roof type, building type: Modern but not too "clean"; preferably a gable roof with a shallow pitch (20–25°)
Basement, stories: no basement, preferably 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 (30 and 31 years old), planning for 2 children
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: Ground floor: entrance hall + cloakroom, guest toilet, office/guest room, large utility room + pantry, open living/dining/kitchen area, approx. 100–110 sqm (1076–1184 sq ft);
Upper floor: 2 children's rooms, children's bathroom, open "parents’ area" with dressing room and master bath, small storage room, preferably gallery/open space, approx. 90 sqm (969 sq ft)
Office: occasional home office use, combined workspace and guest room
Overnight guests per year: 10 nights
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern, not too "clean"
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with freestanding island; slight separation between dining and living areas desired
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why something should or should not be included: if possible, an open staircase
House design
Who designed it: DIY based on various sources
What do you particularly like? Why?: Separation of dining and living areas despite open layout; direct passage from carport into utility room/pantry and then the kitchen; open space with view of the garden; all bedrooms facing the garden; rectangular building shape
What do you dislike? Why?: -
Price estimate according to architect/planner: floor plans of comparable size were around €450,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €550,000–580,000 including carport, excluding landscaping (plot already owned)
Preferred heating system: ground source heat pump, KFW 55 standard
If you have to give up something, on which features/extensions
-you can give up: open staircase; storage room upstairs; fireplace
-you cannot give up: all other rooms in some form
Why is the design as it is now?
A mix of many examples. So far, the floor plans we received from planners were less to our liking.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Affordable (in Lower Saxony; urban area)? Can the staircase on the upper floor be built as shown? Does a ventilation system make sense for KFW 55?
Please ignore the window placement for now; it is rather arbitrary at the moment. The house will be positioned with a 3 m (10 ft) setback on the northeast side of the plot. This means the garden will extend to the south (short side, approx. 23 m (75 ft) total width) and west (approx. 56 m (184 ft) length).
Suggestions, comments, and improvement ideas are very welcome.
Many thanks in advance and best regards,
Carlotta
After spending hours as silent readers in this forum, my partner and I are now ready to share our floor plan for your feedback.
First, here is the questionnaire:
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 1322 sqm (approx. 14,230 sq ft); about 23 x 56 m (75 x 184 ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Floor area ratio: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Edge development: No, only carport/garage and garden shed or storage shed allowed
Number of parking spaces: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Number of stories: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Roof style: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Design style: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Orientation: corner plot approx. 23 x 56 m, streets to the north and west
Maximum height/restrictions: no development plan – § 34 Federal Building Code
Other requirements: none
Client Requirements
Design style, roof type, building type: Modern but not too "clean"; preferably a gable roof with a shallow pitch (20–25°)
Basement, stories: no basement, preferably 2 full floors
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 (30 and 31 years old), planning for 2 children
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: Ground floor: entrance hall + cloakroom, guest toilet, office/guest room, large utility room + pantry, open living/dining/kitchen area, approx. 100–110 sqm (1076–1184 sq ft);
Upper floor: 2 children's rooms, children's bathroom, open "parents’ area" with dressing room and master bath, small storage room, preferably gallery/open space, approx. 90 sqm (969 sq ft)
Office: occasional home office use, combined workspace and guest room
Overnight guests per year: 10 nights
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern, not too "clean"
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with freestanding island; slight separation between dining and living areas desired
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why something should or should not be included: if possible, an open staircase
House design
Who designed it: DIY based on various sources
What do you particularly like? Why?: Separation of dining and living areas despite open layout; direct passage from carport into utility room/pantry and then the kitchen; open space with view of the garden; all bedrooms facing the garden; rectangular building shape
What do you dislike? Why?: -
Price estimate according to architect/planner: floor plans of comparable size were around €450,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €550,000–580,000 including carport, excluding landscaping (plot already owned)
Preferred heating system: ground source heat pump, KFW 55 standard
If you have to give up something, on which features/extensions
-you can give up: open staircase; storage room upstairs; fireplace
-you cannot give up: all other rooms in some form
Why is the design as it is now?
A mix of many examples. So far, the floor plans we received from planners were less to our liking.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters? Affordable (in Lower Saxony; urban area)? Can the staircase on the upper floor be built as shown? Does a ventilation system make sense for KFW 55?
Please ignore the window placement for now; it is rather arbitrary at the moment. The house will be positioned with a 3 m (10 ft) setback on the northeast side of the plot. This means the garden will extend to the south (short side, approx. 23 m (75 ft) total width) and west (approx. 56 m (184 ft) length).
Suggestions, comments, and improvement ideas are very welcome.
Many thanks in advance and best regards,
Carlotta
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Nice-Nofret28 Oct 2020 19:55I think the floor plan is moving in a sensible direction.
Three minor details come to mind right away.
Ground floor bathroom: The entrance to the shower is about 60cm (24 inches) wide, which is a bit narrow. It should be at least 80cm (31 inches).
First floor bathroom: The space for the separate toilet is somewhat narrow. I would increase it to around 1m (39 inches) for more comfort.
First floor bedroom: (personal opinion) For better comfort, I would position the head of the bed against the top or right wall.
Ground floor bathroom: The entrance to the shower is about 60cm (24 inches) wide, which is a bit narrow. It should be at least 80cm (31 inches).
First floor bathroom: The space for the separate toilet is somewhat narrow. I would increase it to around 1m (39 inches) for more comfort.
First floor bedroom: (personal opinion) For better comfort, I would position the head of the bed against the top or right wall.
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Hausbau202229 Oct 2020 09:07What I would also like to point out are some "details" in the bedroom. For the view from the bed, I would choose a large window, similar to the ground floor below. This way, you have a great view of the garden from the bed.
I like it.
In the bedroom, I would arrange the furniture differently. It doesn’t feel great when the entrance door is right next to the head of the bed.
However, the master bathroom won’t work like this.
With a structural dimension of 2.45 meters (8 feet), the clear room height is about 2.40 meters (7 feet 10 inches). That leaves barely a meter (about 3 feet) between the bathtub and the washbasin, probably even less.
I also find the separate toilet too cramped and would leave it out.
I would reconsider the bathroom layout. If having a separate toilet is very important, you might consider a more open concept by not strictly separating the dressing room and bathroom. There are some great possibilities there.
For the dressing room, you could install a wall-to-wall wardrobe along the wall next to the stairs, and on the right side just a chest of drawers where the wall doesn’t go all the way to the ceiling. Then place the washbasin there with a standing mirror that can also be turned toward the dressing room side.
This would definitely improve both rooms, making them less narrow and corridor-like.
This is a bit of a drawback of the floor plan, but it can be nicely adjusted. The master area, with about 37m² (400 square feet), is large enough to accommodate everything comfortably.
Personally, I would probably reduce the size of the bedroom a bit and enlarge the dressing room and bathroom area instead.
I would align the door to Child 1’s room with the bathroom wall. That way, from the square hallway in front of the children’s rooms, you could create a separate room with a door to the corridor. This would create two doors from the living area to the children’s rooms, and the noise transmission over the gallery would be reduced.
Regarding the children’s bathroom, I’m a bit torn about whether it might be better to increase the width from 1.75 meters (5 feet 9 inches) and reduce the length accordingly.
But these are all details for the planning stage. For a meeting with the developer, I think this is a good starting point.
In the bedroom, I would arrange the furniture differently. It doesn’t feel great when the entrance door is right next to the head of the bed.
However, the master bathroom won’t work like this.
With a structural dimension of 2.45 meters (8 feet), the clear room height is about 2.40 meters (7 feet 10 inches). That leaves barely a meter (about 3 feet) between the bathtub and the washbasin, probably even less.
I also find the separate toilet too cramped and would leave it out.
I would reconsider the bathroom layout. If having a separate toilet is very important, you might consider a more open concept by not strictly separating the dressing room and bathroom. There are some great possibilities there.
For the dressing room, you could install a wall-to-wall wardrobe along the wall next to the stairs, and on the right side just a chest of drawers where the wall doesn’t go all the way to the ceiling. Then place the washbasin there with a standing mirror that can also be turned toward the dressing room side.
This would definitely improve both rooms, making them less narrow and corridor-like.
This is a bit of a drawback of the floor plan, but it can be nicely adjusted. The master area, with about 37m² (400 square feet), is large enough to accommodate everything comfortably.
Personally, I would probably reduce the size of the bedroom a bit and enlarge the dressing room and bathroom area instead.
I would align the door to Child 1’s room with the bathroom wall. That way, from the square hallway in front of the children’s rooms, you could create a separate room with a door to the corridor. This would create two doors from the living area to the children’s rooms, and the noise transmission over the gallery would be reduced.
Regarding the children’s bathroom, I’m a bit torn about whether it might be better to increase the width from 1.75 meters (5 feet 9 inches) and reduce the length accordingly.
But these are all details for the planning stage. For a meeting with the developer, I think this is a good starting point.
Something doesn’t seem right. What exactly do your measurements refer to? I was just about to start planning the parents’ area.
For the basic dimensions, I used 8 x 4.65 m (26 ft 3 in x 15 ft 3 in). Exterior walls are 36.5 cm (14.4 in), and the wall next to the stairs is 11.5 cm (4.5 in) masonry. I could imagine that, for structural reasons, this needs to be built with 17.5 cm (6.9 in) bricks.
If I draw it like this, everything becomes much, much tighter.
So either you used incorrect dimensions for all the furniture and sanitary fixtures, or your measurements are off. That doesn’t make things any easier...
For the basic dimensions, I used 8 x 4.65 m (26 ft 3 in x 15 ft 3 in). Exterior walls are 36.5 cm (14.4 in), and the wall next to the stairs is 11.5 cm (4.5 in) masonry. I could imagine that, for structural reasons, this needs to be built with 17.5 cm (6.9 in) bricks.
If I draw it like this, everything becomes much, much tighter.
So either you used incorrect dimensions for all the furniture and sanitary fixtures, or your measurements are off. That doesn’t make things any easier...
matte1987 schrieb:
I took the base dimensions as 8 x 4.65 m (26 ft 3 in x 15 ft 3 in). Exterior walls are 36.5 cm (14 in), and the wall next to the staircase is 11.5 cm (4.5 in) masonry. I could imagine that for structural reasons it will need to be built with 17.5 cm (7 in) bricks. Yes, on the left side of the plan I also see it will have to be load-bearing. But:
Carlotte schrieb:
Then we’ll bother you again with the "professional" drawings. That will be best. Everything (essential) that should be discussed before a meeting with an architect has already been covered.
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