We are currently looking for a kitchen for our new build, which is scheduled to start in 2021. Nothing extravagant. Our first two visits to kitchen showrooms resulted in prices of at least 15,000 euros (around $16,000 USD), plus the side-by-side refrigerator that we plan to buy ourselves.
We are a bit surprised that for just a few pieces of furniture and three appliances (dishwasher, cooktop with fan, oven) we have to pay at least 15,000 euros. The consultants actually expected around 20,000 euros. The countertop is not even ceramic but rather granite.
Are there other options to purchase an affordable kitchen?
Please don’t get me wrong. We could afford such a kitchen. We just don’t see why we should spend 20,000 euros on a few furniture pieces and appliances.
We are a bit surprised that for just a few pieces of furniture and three appliances (dishwasher, cooktop with fan, oven) we have to pay at least 15,000 euros. The consultants actually expected around 20,000 euros. The countertop is not even ceramic but rather granite.
Are there other options to purchase an affordable kitchen?
Please don’t get me wrong. We could afford such a kitchen. We just don’t see why we should spend 20,000 euros on a few furniture pieces and appliances.
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Sparfuchs7728 Oct 2020 09:52pagoni2020 schrieb:
A convincing justification for this necessity cannot really be found.This applies to many areas of life. Does everyone need to own a home? Even the most basic form of ownership is a luxury. But that's getting off topic again. The fact is: I don’t need to find a solid reason for my purchase. Especially not for others. I only have to answer to myself. Sometimes, a simple "because I wanted it!" is enough. Complaining isn't necessary, and you're right about that.
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pagoni202028 Oct 2020 09:57hampshire schrieb:
@pagoni2020: "Decision luxury" is a wonderful phrase.With so many words, there has to be some useful ones occasionally. Sparfuchs_ schrieb:
That applies to many areas of life. Does everyone need their own home? Even that (even in its most basic form) is a luxury. But that leads off-topic again. The fact is: I don’t have to find a convincing reason for my purchase. Especially not for others. I only have to justify it to myself. Sometimes a simple “because I wanted it” is enough. But then you shouldn’t complain, and you’re right about that.That’s EXACTLY what I meant!!! I even find it nice that I can do some things simply because I like them and because I want to. I walk through the apartment and enjoy my furniture every day, just like you do, and that’s how it should be—just as the next person enjoys their small kitchen and puts a 5m (16.4 ft) wide TV on the wall; individual, simply.H
hampshire28 Oct 2020 10:04Sparfuchs_ schrieb:
I don’t need to find a solid justification for my purchase. Especially not for others. 100% agree.
Sparfuchs_ schrieb:
I only have to answer to myself. 80% agree.
One’s own freedom ends where it begins to restrict the freedom of others. Therefore, in some matters, there is no area of responsibility that applies only to oneself. Some may see this as a limitation. However, when considering how much you yourself also benefit, it becomes easier to accept.
With a kitchen, there is little that can go wrong—for example, a loud and foul-smelling extractor vent affecting a neighbor, or products made using child labor, or an unfortunate choice of partners...
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How do you want to avoid child labor? I assume that child labor is involved somewhere in the production chain—no matter where I buy something.
Expensive doesn’t help—look at clothing.
Made in Central Europe means that everything, from raw materials to the finished product, must be produced here—almost impossible.
How do you want to avoid child labor? I assume that child labor is involved somewhere in the production chain—no matter where I buy something.
Expensive doesn’t help—look at clothing.
Made in Central Europe means that everything, from raw materials to the finished product, must be produced here—almost impossible.
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Sparfuchs7728 Oct 2020 10:23hampshire schrieb:
Personal freedom ends where it starts to limit the freedom of others. That’s what laws are for. It should be clear from a kitchen discussion that I didn’t mean this so philosophically.
hampshire schrieb:
a result of choosing unlucky partners. Of course, the partner or family counts in here too, that’s logical.
hampshire schrieb:
a loud and smelly extractor fan facing the neighbor, for example. I certainly wouldn’t redesign my kitchen just because the extractor fan faces the neighbor. There are laws, setback requirements, etc., that must be followed. If the placement complies, I don’t see a problem.
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Alessandro28 Oct 2020 10:34haydee schrieb:
Expensive doesn’t help – look at clothingI could start again here, but I’m holding back.
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