We are currently looking for a kitchen for our new build, which is scheduled to start in 2021. Nothing extravagant. Our first two visits to kitchen showrooms resulted in prices of at least 15,000 euros (around $16,000 USD), plus the side-by-side refrigerator that we plan to buy ourselves.
We are a bit surprised that for just a few pieces of furniture and three appliances (dishwasher, cooktop with fan, oven) we have to pay at least 15,000 euros. The consultants actually expected around 20,000 euros. The countertop is not even ceramic but rather granite.
Are there other options to purchase an affordable kitchen?
Please don’t get me wrong. We could afford such a kitchen. We just don’t see why we should spend 20,000 euros on a few furniture pieces and appliances.
We are a bit surprised that for just a few pieces of furniture and three appliances (dishwasher, cooktop with fan, oven) we have to pay at least 15,000 euros. The consultants actually expected around 20,000 euros. The countertop is not even ceramic but rather granite.
Are there other options to purchase an affordable kitchen?
Please don’t get me wrong. We could afford such a kitchen. We just don’t see why we should spend 20,000 euros on a few furniture pieces and appliances.
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pagoni202026 Oct 2020 00:47Nordlys schrieb:
oh pagoni, right on the sore spot... cooking skills, gourmet kitchen, and all that....and just add a pinch more salt.......
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hampshire26 Oct 2020 01:22Tarnari schrieb:
Self-observation?Unfortunately, yes for now. I built a great house and at the same time have been living for about 6 months in a 5-days-a-week shared work accommodation around 500 km (310 miles) away, which is just a notch above a youth hostel, with four meals out per week. The work is good and meaningful. So what. Other times will come again.
But what does "local" mean for you?
For example, if you are from Bavaria and buy a kitchen from Westphalia, is that considered local, but if someone from Brandenburg buys from IKEA, it isn’t?
IKEA builds, among other places, in Saxony (I’m not sure if they use the Metod system right now).
Or is this more about a German money for German craftsmanship idea?
Why not think more European?
If you really mean local craftsmen, most people would have to buy from their local carpenter instead of Nolte or Nobilia. But then we are quickly talking about $30,000–40,000 instead of $10,000–20,000.
So, I wouldn’t be allowed to buy a kitchen at all, very interesting.
And guess where the carpenter sources the particle boards for the locally made kitchen?
At least in the northeastern part of Germany, quite certainly from Poland as well.
Nowadays, society is more than just the village you live in.
For example, if you are from Bavaria and buy a kitchen from Westphalia, is that considered local, but if someone from Brandenburg buys from IKEA, it isn’t?
IKEA builds, among other places, in Saxony (I’m not sure if they use the Metod system right now).
Or is this more about a German money for German craftsmanship idea?
Why not think more European?
If you really mean local craftsmen, most people would have to buy from their local carpenter instead of Nolte or Nobilia. But then we are quickly talking about $30,000–40,000 instead of $10,000–20,000.
So, I wouldn’t be allowed to buy a kitchen at all, very interesting.
And guess where the carpenter sources the particle boards for the locally made kitchen?
At least in the northeastern part of Germany, quite certainly from Poland as well.
Nowadays, society is more than just the village you live in.
We deliberately chose a Häcker kitchen.
Why?
The kitchen showroom we visited made a huge impression on us, and they exclusively sell Häcker kitchens. This is because they are manufactured just two towns away…
Häcker also offers a "more affordable" line. It’s only slightly more expensive than IKEA, but I find the quality is still better.
Why?
The kitchen showroom we visited made a huge impression on us, and they exclusively sell Häcker kitchens. This is because they are manufactured just two towns away…
Häcker also offers a "more affordable" line. It’s only slightly more expensive than IKEA, but I find the quality is still better.
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Stefan00126 Oct 2020 06:46hampshire schrieb:
And what about your own demands and services? Do you arrogantly exclude yourself from that?
Either you live in a community and accept the local price level. My thesis is that buying "cheap" elsewhere is ultimately rather foolish and short-sighted. I absolutely do not exclude myself. I work in an industry that has become so bloated and sluggish that we are far from efficient. Only the establishment is keeping us afloat, and that is precisely what prevents renewal and improvement. Eventually, the backlog becomes so great that you wonder how we ever kept up, and then the entire industry collapses with a loud bang.
For me, innovation and creativity are the virtues of the German economy. Protectionism rarely helps in this context.
I grew up in a world where the EU has always existed. At least the Pole belongs to my community. I also count Americans and Chinese among my community.
And finally: You write about buying "cheap" elsewhere. I think those quotation marks are the key point of the discussion.
If buying cheap elsewhere means getting poor quality, I would also consider that unwise.
Buying cheaper elsewhere because it is simply produced more efficiently, however, I find very clever. (Of course, this position ignores exploitation and poor working conditions, which I am aware of.)
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