ᐅ Excessive Costs for the Kitchen?!

Ybias78 schrieb:

Do I have to understand this now? Sounds quite racist.

I don’t.
But it referred to the fact that people nowadays travel longer distances just to get something cheaper instead of planning more realistically. Otherwise, you end up with houses that are expensive to equip but surrounded by abandoned shops.

My kitchen is from Nolte, high-gloss wood doors, 6.60 meters (21.7 feet) with three tall cabinets, all with pull-outs (including the tall cabinets), a 1.80-meter (5.9 feet) wall cabinet including lighting, and an extra-thin countertop. Including appliances (steam oven, oven, dishwasher, induction cooktop, standard extractor hood) it cost 10,000€ (plus 10-15% for current prices since it was in 2013). IKEA would have been more expensive.

ypg schrieb:

Not me.
But it referred to the fact that nowadays people go to greater lengths just to get something cheaper instead of planning more realistically. Otherwise, you end up with only expensive, well-equipped houses but deserted shops all around.

My kitchen is from Nolte, high-gloss wood doors, 6.60 meters (22 feet) with three tall cabinets, all with pull-outs (including the tall cabinets), a 1.80-meter (6 feet) upper cabinet including lighting, and an extra-thin countertop. Including appliances (steam oven, oven, dishwasher, induction cooktop, standard extractor hood) it cost €10,000. However, that was in 2013, so add 10-15% for current prices. Ikea would have been more expensive.

Sorry, I rarely read such nonsense. Do you also think that goods from H&M, C&A, and Amazon are made exclusively in Germany? And your LG/Samsung/Philips TV comes from a factory near Berlin? Sure. Just look at all the furniture and where it is made. Even expensive ones mostly come from Poland. And why should I go through a middleman when I can contact the manufacturer directly?

Andre77 schrieb:

I am always amazed at how much some people spend on their kitchens.

Same here... I am amazed every time as well.

That's right – IKEA manufactures in low-wage countries; however, German kitchen manufacturers do not. Some suppliers for specific fronts are partly located in other EU countries, such as Spain and Italy, but these are not low-wage countries either.

Where do YOU think Nolte produces its furniture?

Ybias78 schrieb:

Of course. Just look at all the furniture and where it is made. Even expensive ones mostly come from Poland.

Well, in OWL and the surrounding areas, there are an incredible number of furniture and kitchen manufacturers. They produce their goods here in Germany.

Kitchens from OWL:
Nobilia
Häcker
Poggenpohl
Nolte
and many more.

I see their trucks driving along country roads here every day. Nobilia has two huge factories near the A2 motorway close to Gütersloh/Verl, and Häcker is located in Rödinghausen. My father worked until five years ago for a front manufacturer, a supplier for the kitchen industry. Regarding pressed wood, I agree with you, that was a bigger sourcing market.

Just look up “Küchenmeile” on Google.

The same applies to furniture: “Möbel-Meile” is the keyword.
A large amount of products in my area come from there and are genuine German quality workmanship. It is true that there is a good margin for the retail channel of furniture and kitchen studios, though.

Nice-Nofret schrieb:

IKEA produces in low-wage countries;

Actually, IKEA manufactures a large part of its products in Germany. Unless this has changed, items like Pax, the Metod kitchen system, and Kallax are produced in Germany. The countertops used to come from Lechner, and the kitchen fittings are still supplied by Hettich. Hettich produces these fittings on the same machines as for brands like Poggenpohl — using the same materials and quality, just sometimes with fewer functions. The induction cooktop with integrated extraction is from Franke, and so on. There is a lot of quality from Germany built into these products.