ᐅ Floor plan of a 190 m² urban villa on a concrete slab foundation

Created on: 23 Oct 2020 09:43
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DaSch17
Hello everyone,

now I’m finally brave enough to share our project in the lion’s den.

You can also follow the development here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-neubauvorhaben-von-tag-1-an-und-die-planung-beginnt.33766/

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size:
approx. 750m² (8070 sq ft)
Slope: see sketch
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.3
Total floor space ratio (FSR): 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3m (10 ft); see sketch
Edge development: yes, garage allowed
Number of parking spaces: 1 garage; 1–2 in front of the house
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: hipped roof, 22° pitch
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 7.50m (24.6 ft), top edge max. 10.0m (32.8 ft) (measured from the lowest point of the natural ground level on the valley side)
Other requirements: none


Site plan of a plot with colored outlines, neighboring plots 1–3 and north arrow.


Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
see above
Basement, floors: slab-on-grade; 2 full stories
Number of occupants, age: 32; 28; no children (2 planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: see floor plan draft
Office space: 1 home office workstation
Occasional overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction style: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes, as a room divider
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes; four-sided panoramic fireplace as a room divider between living area and entrance or dining/kitchen
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: 1 single garage with extended length
Utility garden, greenhouse: not planned so far
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be: open living/dining area as the focal point, TV corner relatively small and therefore cozy, fireplace, office on ground floor facing the garden, straight closed staircase made of solid oak, gallery and open space on the upper floor, children and parents separated on the upper floor, walk-in closet definitely not a walkthrough room; rather some kind of walk-in wardrobe instead.


House Design
Origin of the design: based on "Herb" by Baufritz, own planning in cooperation with general contractor and forum users
What do you especially like? office facing the garden, breakfast and evening terrace, open living and dining area, fireplace as room divider, gallery on upper floor and open space above the entrance area on ground floor, separated areas for children and parents
What do you dislike? Why? everything great
Cost estimate according to planner: 682,000 (house 505,000, additional building costs 59,000, land 69,000, other costs [including kitchen and outdoor facilities] 49,000)
Personal budget limit for the house, incl. fittings: 700,000 All-In
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump with split system and underfloor heating, controlled ventilation system

If you had to give up, which details / expansions
-could you live without:
./.
-could you not do without: ./.

Why is the design as it is now?
Adapted from the "Herb" base by Baufritz according to our needs and the plot. Further development of the floor plan with the general contractor and with the help of forum users. Process duration: 8 months

What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
See "What do you especially like?"


Floor plan of a house: garage, utility room, living room, kitchen, office, hallway, WC, storage room.


Floor plan of the attic: hallway, bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, WC and two children’s rooms.
DaSch1723 Oct 2020 10:33
hampshire schrieb:

This is a design that’s very livable but includes a lot of circulation space. You have to like that aspect.
I wouldn’t have thought to place a design created for flat terrain on a slope.

We’ll have to wait and see where the road level ends up. The new development area is still being planned... Most likely, we’ll have to do some grading at the top and top-left of the plan. We don’t really mind that, since it also creates a natural barrier to the neighbor, and we don’t have any windows on the north side that would look out onto the slope anyway...
Alessandro schrieb:

I really like it!
Keep the option open to add a door between the fireplace and the stairs—maybe a sliding door or glass door, etc.
An open hallway with a void space is not everyone’s preference when it comes to noise.

I would reconsider the garage. You can already see in the picture that there’s barely enough space to open the doors when loading and unloading.
I would go for an open carport instead.

The sliding door is a great idea. If it becomes bothersome later, we can retrofit it. Noted. Thanks.

A carport with an adjoining storage room is also still under consideration. We haven’t made a final decision yet.
matte1987 schrieb:

I somehow feel there’s not enough space for a coat rack. That niche near the door to the office probably won’t be enough...
Alessandro schrieb:

Shouldn’t the coat rack be in the utility room?

Exactly. The niche will be for an open guest coat rack and a small seating area or something similar.
The rest of the jackets will go into the utility room.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:

Have you ever seen a T-shaped bathroom in real life? It might sound practical but is really one of those modern design mistakes.

We like it very much. Worst case, it can be removed during the first bathroom renovation.
seth0487 schrieb:

In my opinion, the niche by the office doesn’t make much sense. Why not place the door directly on the wall in front of the stairs?

Otherwise, I really like the design!

Thanks.
The office is already large enough, so that’s why we planned the niche for the guest coat rack (see above).
RomeoZwo schrieb:

I don’t understand the corner by the office. Also, the large open space with the niche on the upper floor—is that supposed to provide access to the main bathroom for the kids? If so, okay, but otherwise, isn’t that a waste of space?

Regarding the open space on the upper floor: we want to install a built-in cupboard there. You can never have enough storage space.
We simply don’t need the extra space in the bathroom if we extend the wall.
DaSch1723 Oct 2020 10:38
matte1987 schrieb:

A lot of space is being wasted here, especially the entire lower planned area of the living room and between the living room and kitchen near the room stamp is completely unused. You could call that generosity, but it means there is a significant lack of space elsewhere.

We’ve already had a similar discussion. Maybe to clarify, here is the floor plan with the planned furnishing in the living room:


Ground floor floor plan: garage with car on the left, living room, kitchen, office, hallway, WC, storage room.


To prevent the view from the entrance area into the open living space from hitting a blank wall, a sideboard with a lamp or something similar will be placed there.
In the corner on the left side of the plan, a chaise lounge will be added as a reading nook.

Also, at Christmas there has to be space for the Christmas tree somewhere. It’s really frustrating right now to have to rearrange half the living room once a year just to make room for the tree...
DaSch1723 Oct 2020 10:40
RomeoZwo schrieb:

But whether the kitchen and dining area will still fit, you should measure that out or plan it with actual furniture.

No. That won’t work. Believe me, we’ve tried almost everything over the last eight months. The kitchen doesn’t fit in your version anymore, or rather, the dining area doesn’t.
Alessandro schrieb:

The niche by the office makes sense. Everyone needs a dresser or cabinet for keys, the house phone, slippers, and a coat rack for guests, etc., etc. I think it’s good that it’s not right in the middle of the hallway, narrowing it.

The same goes for the upper floor. These are spots that can be nicely designed with a bookcase, dresser, illuminated picture with a small decorative table and chairs, a big plant, and so on.
Such niches make a house interesting and offer many possibilities. It always looks much better than having a cabinet placed directly in front of a flat wall...

That’s exactly the idea.
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Alessandro
23 Oct 2020 10:40
Don't forget the laundry chute in the bathroom!
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Alessandro
23 Oct 2020 11:15
matte1987 schrieb:

I’d like to see the space for a coat rack in an 11m² (118 sq ft) utility room. It’s supposed to have storage space and a washing machine as well. The building services equipment also needs its place.
I didn’t want to have to go to the utility room for every single jacket. Of course, there are some that are very neatly equipped with kitchen furniture, etc., but in most utility rooms (including ours), it still comes down to this.

The niche by the office is large enough to hang more than enough everyday jackets.
For the utility room, a clothes rack or simple hooks on the wall are sufficient.

For comparison, I’ve taken a picture of the coat niche in our workspace. It’s about the same size as the office of the original poster:


Wardrobe with hanging rail and colorful winter jackets hanging on hangers
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matte
23 Oct 2020 11:36
Come on. Especially coming from someone like you, who placed great importance on interior design in their own house, I would expect a nicer cloakroom than the one in your office...

Besides, in your example, there still isn’t space for shoes, hats, gloves, scarves, or a place to put keys. And the original poster also mentioned a seating option.

Regarding the clothes rack or wall hooks in the utility room, you might be right, but there simply isn’t enough space for them. Unless you almost completely give up other storage options.
The lower wall on the plan is probably almost entirely occupied by technical installations, including house connections. The upper niche is meant for the washer/dryer and all the other stuff needed for laundry—or vice versa.
Great, that just leaves the wall next to the toilet. Since the door behind it leaves no room for a shelf, the cloakroom can go there. But that’s it. Where do the shoes go then? On a shelf above the washing machine? But then the window is in the way...

I don’t care, I don’t have to live there, just wanted to point out that the planned space for a cloakroom will very quickly reach its spatial limits.
On the other hand, the available space seems overly generous for my taste. Why not make the upper part including the office/cloakroom/toilet/utility room a bit bigger, and reduce the size of the open living area?
In the guest WC, you can’t even open the door normally without positioning yourself awkwardly between the toilet and the sink. With a rough structural dimension of 1.60m (5 ft 3 in), minus plaster and the toilet (assuming no installation wall is built), there’s only about 1m (3 ft 3 in) left for you and the door.

This has nothing to do with taste; it’s simply impractical and becomes annoying over time.

What the original poster makes of it is their business. I’m out. No offense intended.