ᐅ Ending Collaboration with an Architect after Design Development (Stage 4) – What Next?

Created on: 7 Jun 2020 13:16
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laumar01
Hello, we planned our solid single-family house together with an architect (LF1- LF4). Unfortunately, we were not satisfied with the collaboration overall, so we decided to part ways after the successful building permit / planning permission application. Since we consider ourselves building novices, a separate tendering process for the trades with our own construction management is not an option for us, and we are leaning towards turnkey construction with a general contractor.

The building permit / planning permission is currently being processed by the building authority. Now we are quite unsure how to proceed with the next steps and how the cooperation with a general contractor will work if they are executing a house that they did not design themselves.

Does anyone have any tips for us?
What should we pay attention to, and which pitfalls should we avoid?
Has anyone had similar experiences and made a change after LF4?

Thank you in advance for your help!
11ant17 Jun 2020 15:24
laumar01 schrieb:

If anyone in this forum has experience with Fermo, I would appreciate a private message. Unfortunately, I haven’t contributed enough yet to directly contact those who have shared about Fermo.

As far as I know, the minimum post requirement also applies to receiving messages; even I, as a member with over 10,000 posts, cannot message you.
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laumar01
17 Jun 2020 15:51
That is, of course, unfortunate. Then the question is, how many posts do I need?
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laumar01
16 Oct 2020 16:43
Hello, after some time I wanted to get back in touch.

We have now received three offers from general contractors (GCs), which vary significantly in price for our house (living area 184 m² (including half credit for a 34 m² (37 square feet) terrace) with basement and integrated double garage):
€600,000, €640,000, and €720,000, each including an estimate for excavation and disposal, but excluding other additional construction costs.
Additionally, we requested a quote from an architect. His cost estimate, based on an average price of €1,490 per m² (approximately $1,490 per square yard) for the gross floor area of 379.7 m², and €475 per m³ for the gross volume of 1,077 m³, is roughly €540,000 on average.
On top of that, there would be additional construction-related costs of about €130,000 for the GCs or €180,000 for the architect due to his fees.

Now we are wondering who to proceed with.
The detailed design from the architect is certainly better than that of the GC.
But how realistic is the architect’s cost estimate?

For the cheapest GC, we also had the initial offer revised because some items like the rain gutter were missing in the text, which we considered standard. As a result, he smoothly added another €35,000, bringing the total to €600,000. Our concern is that this might continue during construction and he will charge extra whenever something missing comes up...
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icandoit
16 Oct 2020 17:24
I don’t know your design. But architect-designed houses tend to be more expensive. The architect has estimated around 1300 euros/m2 (approximately $121 per ft²), which is quite ambitious. Is the architect an older gentleman?
11ant16 Oct 2020 18:11
icandoit schrieb:

The architect estimated about 1300 euros per m2 (approximately 121 dollars per sq ft), which is very ambitious.
More likely a typo: cubic meters instead of square meters.
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