ᐅ Floating solid hardwood flooring installation—any experiences?
Created on: 19 Sep 2020 12:14
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pagoni2020
Hello,
since we have screwed solid wood planks on joists in almost the entire house for many years and really liked it, we are now considering whether to choose solid wood planks again in the new house, but this time with underfloor heating and therefore directly on the screed.
We do not want an adhesive floor, so we are looking for experiences with floating solid wood plank installations.
since we have screwed solid wood planks on joists in almost the entire house for many years and really liked it, we are now considering whether to choose solid wood planks again in the new house, but this time with underfloor heating and therefore directly on the screed.
We do not want an adhesive floor, so we are looking for experiences with floating solid wood plank installations.
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pagoni202021 Sep 2020 11:58Oh yes, I just looked it up and found pictures from you. Very nice!
I currently have some free time, so I’m interested in various options for interior finishing.
On one hand, there is the well-known, proven method I am familiar with: the screwed-down plank floor. On the other hand, there is today’s “standard” underfloor heating system. Ultimately, the decision will be based on several factors, especially since this time we are building with a general contractor and will therefore be dependent on their trades and schedules. It is helpful to have such information to be able to make a quicker decision.
I generally do not want to glue down the wood floor, even if it’s engineered wood or prefinished parquet; this is simply based on my personal feeling and various individual details, which may find little agreement.
Our floor in the old house was screwed down and did not creak, although there were corresponding gaps. There was never a problem despite children and a dog. On the contrary, the more worn it looked, the more it was liked... the floor. It will probably remain there for another 30 years in the house that has since been sold.
We’ll see what it finally turns out to be... Building at an older age feels different, I have the impression; I focus on quite different things than I did back then.
In any case, I really like your solution for your house situation!
I currently have some free time, so I’m interested in various options for interior finishing.
On one hand, there is the well-known, proven method I am familiar with: the screwed-down plank floor. On the other hand, there is today’s “standard” underfloor heating system. Ultimately, the decision will be based on several factors, especially since this time we are building with a general contractor and will therefore be dependent on their trades and schedules. It is helpful to have such information to be able to make a quicker decision.
I generally do not want to glue down the wood floor, even if it’s engineered wood or prefinished parquet; this is simply based on my personal feeling and various individual details, which may find little agreement.
Our floor in the old house was screwed down and did not creak, although there were corresponding gaps. There was never a problem despite children and a dog. On the contrary, the more worn it looked, the more it was liked... the floor. It will probably remain there for another 30 years in the house that has since been sold.
We’ll see what it finally turns out to be... Building at an older age feels different, I have the impression; I focus on quite different things than I did back then.
In any case, I really like your solution for your house situation!
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chand198621 Sep 2020 14:52@Tolentino
In the living room, there are many other sources of interference. Whether cables make a difference in an environment "cleared of all other sources of interference" is an irrelevant question. This is a typical laboratory mouse study typical of the publish-or-perish culture.
I would like to see a study that, for example, proves shielding makes no difference in real-life conditions. Otherwise, I have nothing more to say.
In the living room, there are many other sources of interference. Whether cables make a difference in an environment "cleared of all other sources of interference" is an irrelevant question. This is a typical laboratory mouse study typical of the publish-or-perish culture.
I would like to see a study that, for example, proves shielding makes no difference in real-life conditions. Otherwise, I have nothing more to say.
@chand1986
I meant all other differences. So, signal chain, listening distances, speaker positioning, etc. We didn’t test in a completely sealed room, but simply used a setup where only the cables within the playback chain could act as different components. Everything else remained the same. This includes potential interference from other devices, which occur at least as often in an office building as in a single-family home.
Unfortunately, this test wasn’t published, so you can choose to believe me or not. My question in return is: have you ever conducted such a test?
By the way, what interference factors do you think affect the speaker cables in your living room that could cause audible changes within the frequency range carried by those cables?
Ontopic:
@HarvSpec
May I ask how much the system costs approximately per m² (square meter)?
I meant all other differences. So, signal chain, listening distances, speaker positioning, etc. We didn’t test in a completely sealed room, but simply used a setup where only the cables within the playback chain could act as different components. Everything else remained the same. This includes potential interference from other devices, which occur at least as often in an office building as in a single-family home.
Unfortunately, this test wasn’t published, so you can choose to believe me or not. My question in return is: have you ever conducted such a test?
By the way, what interference factors do you think affect the speaker cables in your living room that could cause audible changes within the frequency range carried by those cables?
Ontopic:
@HarvSpec
May I ask how much the system costs approximately per m² (square meter)?
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knalltüte22 Sep 2020 22:25Tolentino schrieb:
Maybe over 20 meters (66 feet) there is a difference between 0.5mm² (0.0008 inch²) aluminum and 4.0mm² (0.0062 inch²) copper.
Otherwise, you can measure differences, but you cannot hear them acoustically. The rest is caused by the dissonance of the high cable price...
We tested this with acoustic engineers and a double-blind test. One out of five achieved over a 50% success rate (5 meters (16 feet) of 2.5mm² (0.0039 inch²) copper stranded wire against a pre-made 6mm² (0.0093 inch²) gold-plated reference cable), they reached 60%.
People think they hear differences, but when the supposedly worse cable sounds better half of the time, you stop believing these audiophile legends. ... and on which system?
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knalltüte22 Sep 2020 22:31Tolentino schrieb:
@chand1986
...
Ontopic:
@HarvSpec
May I ask how much the system costs approximately per m² (per square meter)?I am also very interested because I am still looking for a suitable solution for my new build. I also prefer solid wood flooring boards installed as a floating floor. However, I will have a heat pump with passive cooling, and I am wondering how to implement this without additional cooling panels (mounted under the ceiling)?
superzapp schrieb:
... and which system?I don’t remember exactly, but it definitely wasn’t a 20,000-euro system. More like around 10,000 euros. So it could be that it was just too poor quality...
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