ᐅ Single-family home floor plan, 3 children’s bedrooms, goal: reduce square meters
Created on: 20 Sep 2020 21:19
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Tessa22
Hello dear readers,
I hope to find some suggestions from you regarding our attached floor plan.
We have purchased a plot of land over 900 sqm (about 9687 sq ft), flat, without a zoning plan (so no specific regulations, only the usual 3-meter (10 feet) distance to the neighboring property).
The plot is 24 meters (79 feet) wide towards the street and 38 meters (125 feet) deep.
So actually plenty of space.
All our wishes were perfectly implemented.
But unfortunately, we are now over 215 sqm (2316 sq ft)... our target was 190-195 sqm (2045-2099 sq ft).
Now we are significantly above that, but I can't find a proper solution...
The vestibule could be smaller.
The upstairs office doesn’t need to be 19 sqm (204 sq ft), but the problem is that you can’t just reduce 5 sqm (54 sq ft) randomly... The ground floor and upper floor have to fit together again...
We could manage with a 10 sqm (108 sq ft) bathroom.
The office and each children’s room are fine at 15 sqm (161 sq ft), and the double hallway upstairs is not important to us.
The vestibule at 8 sqm (86 sq ft) is also sufficient.
So mathematically I can spot the errors, but in practice... help...
By now, I am stuck in a building bubble, and everything revolves just around the floor plan... And my phone is full of screenshots with furnishing ideas... The more ideas, the more complicated it somehow becomes. Does anyone else feel the same?
I hope to find some suggestions from you regarding our attached floor plan.
We have purchased a plot of land over 900 sqm (about 9687 sq ft), flat, without a zoning plan (so no specific regulations, only the usual 3-meter (10 feet) distance to the neighboring property).
The plot is 24 meters (79 feet) wide towards the street and 38 meters (125 feet) deep.
So actually plenty of space.
All our wishes were perfectly implemented.
But unfortunately, we are now over 215 sqm (2316 sq ft)... our target was 190-195 sqm (2045-2099 sq ft).
Now we are significantly above that, but I can't find a proper solution...
The vestibule could be smaller.
The upstairs office doesn’t need to be 19 sqm (204 sq ft), but the problem is that you can’t just reduce 5 sqm (54 sq ft) randomly... The ground floor and upper floor have to fit together again...
We could manage with a 10 sqm (108 sq ft) bathroom.
The office and each children’s room are fine at 15 sqm (161 sq ft), and the double hallway upstairs is not important to us.
The vestibule at 8 sqm (86 sq ft) is also sufficient.
So mathematically I can spot the errors, but in practice... help...
By now, I am stuck in a building bubble, and everything revolves just around the floor plan... And my phone is full of screenshots with furnishing ideas... The more ideas, the more complicated it somehow becomes. Does anyone else feel the same?
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Martial.white20 Sep 2020 21:50Questionnaire <- Click me.
The pinned questionnaire is located in exactly THE subforum you are currently in. There are several threads that should be read beforehand. Since it seems you have hardly looked here before, I’d say it’s almost too late to receive patient advice, as the information you post will no longer be on the same page as the floor plans.
The design has potential to reduce 30m² (320ft²), but there is a complete lack of information.
The design has potential to reduce 30m² (320ft²), but there is a complete lack of information.
Copied (shouldn’t be too hard to find your own thread :cool
Restrictions
Plot size 900
Slope
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 900
Slope no, completely flat
Site coverage ratio no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Floor area ratio no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Building envelope, building line and boundary no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Edge development Garage located on the boundary no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of storeys w
Roof shape gable
Architectural style modern
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits no specifications
Other requirements none
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type modern gable roof
Basement, number of floors no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants currently 2 adults aged 35 and 2 children, one more child planned
Space requirement on ground and upper floor together desired 190–195
Office: family use or home office? An office for home office
Overnight guests per year none
Open or closed layout practical
Conservative or modern construction open
Open kitchen, kitchen island semi-open
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse no
House design
Who created the plan:
Initial consultation with planner
What do you particularly like? Why? Separation of living room possible with sliding door, separation between lower and upper floor possible with sliding doors for noise and sleeping children, vestibule, storage space
What do you not like? Why? Too many square meters, e.g. upper floor double hallway, upstairs office could be smaller, 15 instead of 19 sqm (square meters), bathroom could be 10–13 sqm, vestibule downstairs 8 sqm would suffice, dining area smaller, long corridor, while spaciousness is nice every sqm has a cost... Possibly different staircase layout?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 620,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 580,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air heat pump with photovoltaic preparation, depending on cost
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- Can you give up: reduce size
- Cannot give up: separation of living room, no direct access to kitchen but kitchen still integrated
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? Our desired rooms were implemented like this
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? All, but too large
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
A lot of flexibility due to separations, plenty of storage, 3 children’s rooms and office
Restrictions
Plot size 900
Slope
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size 900
Slope no, completely flat
Site coverage ratio no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Floor area ratio no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Building envelope, building line and boundary no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Edge development Garage located on the boundary no development plan, only neighboring buildings, 3 meters (10 feet) distance
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of storeys w
Roof shape gable
Architectural style modern
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits no specifications
Other requirements none
Client requirements
Style, roof shape, building type modern gable roof
Basement, number of floors no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants currently 2 adults aged 35 and 2 children, one more child planned
Space requirement on ground and upper floor together desired 190–195
Office: family use or home office? An office for home office
Overnight guests per year none
Open or closed layout practical
Conservative or modern construction open
Open kitchen, kitchen island semi-open
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/stereo wall no
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse no
House design
Who created the plan:
Initial consultation with planner
What do you particularly like? Why? Separation of living room possible with sliding door, separation between lower and upper floor possible with sliding doors for noise and sleeping children, vestibule, storage space
What do you not like? Why? Too many square meters, e.g. upper floor double hallway, upstairs office could be smaller, 15 instead of 19 sqm (square meters), bathroom could be 10–13 sqm, vestibule downstairs 8 sqm would suffice, dining area smaller, long corridor, while spaciousness is nice every sqm has a cost... Possibly different staircase layout?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 620,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 580,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air heat pump with photovoltaic preparation, depending on cost
If you have to give up something, which details/expansions
- Can you give up: reduce size
- Cannot give up: separation of living room, no direct access to kitchen but kitchen still integrated
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? Our desired rooms were implemented like this
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? All, but too large
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
A lot of flexibility due to separations, plenty of storage, 3 children’s rooms and office
You currently have over 30m² (over 320 sq ft) of usable space, which isn’t necessary.
Regarding the upstairs office, I’m a bit confused: you even accept that it could be smaller upon inquiry... now it’s a children’s room. Anyway, I find the central part of your house too large and unnecessary if you want to save space. You should consider setting the garage further back from the front of the house, so it protrudes forward. Then, align the rear wall (bottom of the plan; sorry, there is no orientation indicated) straight with the house wall and shift the living room inward towards the dining area. This would even allow the pantry to have a window or door to the rear terrace. Use the pantry as a utility room, so you can eliminate the utility room upstairs. Rearrange the rooms upstairs accordingly to make it work. To really refine the design, you’ll have to undertake it yourself.
Apart from that, consider whether the kitchen would be better positioned next to the terrace, and then ask where five people will store and organize their coats and shoes. Small adjustments of 20 to 30cm (8 to 12 inches) are hard to address here, but it seems the kitchen zone between the island and the counter is too large. I also noticed that the kitchen cabinets on the short wall don’t measure 60cm/60cm (24"/24"), which significantly distorts usability. So: measure everything and check it in 10cm (4 inch) increments.
I think you have too much space in many areas and too little in others (and you won’t be able to see the latter without measurements).
Regarding the upstairs office, I’m a bit confused: you even accept that it could be smaller upon inquiry... now it’s a children’s room. Anyway, I find the central part of your house too large and unnecessary if you want to save space. You should consider setting the garage further back from the front of the house, so it protrudes forward. Then, align the rear wall (bottom of the plan; sorry, there is no orientation indicated) straight with the house wall and shift the living room inward towards the dining area. This would even allow the pantry to have a window or door to the rear terrace. Use the pantry as a utility room, so you can eliminate the utility room upstairs. Rearrange the rooms upstairs accordingly to make it work. To really refine the design, you’ll have to undertake it yourself.
Apart from that, consider whether the kitchen would be better positioned next to the terrace, and then ask where five people will store and organize their coats and shoes. Small adjustments of 20 to 30cm (8 to 12 inches) are hard to address here, but it seems the kitchen zone between the island and the counter is too large. I also noticed that the kitchen cabinets on the short wall don’t measure 60cm/60cm (24"/24"), which significantly distorts usability. So: measure everything and check it in 10cm (4 inch) increments.
I think you have too much space in many areas and too little in others (and you won’t be able to see the latter without measurements).
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