ᐅ Low-voltage downlights in ceiling

Created on: 19 Mar 2013 10:10
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Renovierer2013
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Renovierer2013
19 Mar 2013 10:10
Hello everyone,

Here is the starting situation:
The bathroom ceiling structure from top to bottom is as follows:
Wooden beams
Vapor barrier
Lathing (3 cm / 1.2 inches)
Drywall panels (approx. 1.25 cm / 0.5 inches)
This results in a total thickness of 4.25 cm (1.7 inches).

Does anyone know of recessed downlights that would fit into this space?

I found these:
Recessed downlight Profi Line 58 with IP65 7500888

It says height 2.8 cm (1.1 inches), installation depth 5 cm (2 inches).
Can I install these, or will they overheat?
Or does the height actually not refer to the depth inside the ceiling, but rather to the visible height of the light below the ceiling?

I appreciate any advice!

Best regards

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Brisch
20 Mar 2013 11:41
If you want to play it safe, you can forget about recessed spotlights with the existing installation depth of 30mm (1.2 inches), especially if you want GU10 bulbs.

We have now lowered the ceiling using two layers of 32mm (1.3 inches) battens, so a total of 64mm (2.5 inches) battens plus a 12.5mm (0.5 inches) drywall panel... this allows for recessed spotlights quite easily (at Conrad, there were suitable Paulmann GU5.3 spotlights with 6.5W LED bulbs).

With only 3 cm (1.2 inches) of depth, you will only have room for large LED panels or SMD bulbs with a GX53 base, as far as I know (though, in my opinion, these have a somewhat peculiar light quality).
Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Andi
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Renovierer2013
21 Mar 2013 13:54
Thanks for the reply!

After browsing through various forums for an evening, I finally decided to simply use double battens.
That makes 64 + 12.5 = 76.5mm (3 inches) of air space, which should be enough...

You mentioned you used 6.5W LEDs. May I ask how large your room is and how many you installed?
For me, it’s the bathroom, 3.20m * 4m (10.5 ft * 13 ft), with a T-shaped layout for the shower and toilet.

I hope the formatting doesn’t get messed up. This is how I imagined the arrangement (# is the wall, X the spots):
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# X X # X X X #
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# X X X #
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# X X X X #
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Are LEDs enough there, or would halogen lights with 35W each be better? That would be 12 * 35 = 420 watts for 12 m² (130 ft²).
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Renovierer2013
21 Mar 2013 14:04
Here as an image!



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Schematic floor plan with X marks inside a rectangular frame
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CharlieBrown
21 Mar 2013 14:37
Renovierer2013 schrieb:
Thanks for the reply!
Are LEDs sufficient, or would halogen bulbs with 35W each be better? That would be 12 * 35 = 420 watts for 12 m² (129 sq ft).
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420 watts for a bathroom? The energy provider would be happy about that...
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Renovierer2013
21 Mar 2013 15:35
CharlieBrown schrieb:
420 watts for a bathroom? The energy provider must be happy...

Why don’t you suggest an alternative?

What I definitely hate is when the bathroom is just dimly lit.
And as I said, if I knew what to do, I wouldn’t be asking for advice here in the forum.
My question was also related to whether LED bulbs would be suitable.