ᐅ New construction of a single-family house, approximately 220 sqm. Please provide feedback on the floor plan.

Created on: 30 Jul 2020 13:05
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idasb79
Hello everyone,

After quietly following this forum for a long time, I have now registered and would like to hear your opinions on our current planning status. The plan is to live in the house for about 15–20 years and then sell it.
So, here we go!

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 620 m² (6676 sq ft)
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 12 m x 14 m (39 ft 4 in x 46 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 1 plus 1 garage
Number of stories: 2
Roof type: pitched roof
Orientation: north
Additional requirements: drainage ditch in front of the building envelope on the south side, 3 m wide (10 ft), with a planned 4 m wide (13 ft) crossing

Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, age: 4 persons – 40, 41, 14, 14 years old
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island, semi-open with sliding door to dining area
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes, as a room divider between living and dining
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes
Garage, carport: yes
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included

House Design
Planner: do-it-yourself

What do you particularly like? Why?
Large living area and master bedroom with walk-in closet and bathroom
Large kitchen

What do you dislike? Why?

Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
No cost estimate yet, as no contact has been made so far

Personal budget for the house, including fittings:
No idea yet

Preferred heating technology:
No preference, but if the combination with subsidies and so on is right, a geothermal heat pump would be welcome again. Otherwise, price-performance ratio should be good.

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ypg
1 Aug 2020 23:33
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Since I have a lot of time, I also like to write at length.

Do you actually live far from @11ant?
You should meet up.
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pagoni2020
1 Aug 2020 23:40
ypg schrieb:

Do you actually live far from @11ant?
You two should meet

I have no idea where they live...
Do you really think so... but I am married!
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idasb79
1 Aug 2020 23:47
Hello everyone,

a lot has happened since my last post here. Thanks for that! Unfortunately, most comments have said very little about the floor plan. Instead, there have been assumptions and a string of random phrases from posts, as if the other person (me) is known 100%. Such comments unnecessarily lengthen a thread, making it exhausting for some people to read and respond.

In this post, I will try to explain a few things about myself and my family, and from now on, I will only reply to constructive comments and advice regarding the floor plan design.
11ant schrieb:

Is your wife a fan of Zsa Zsa Gabor?
My wife is not a fan of Zsa Zsa Gabor; Zsa Zsa Gabor was a fan of my wife. It’s unbelievable what kind of ridiculous questions you have to deal with here. No meaningful contribution from this member so far, only silly remarks to get thumbs up or to pat each other on the back and clutter the thread.
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Reading your post gives me the impression of a technically rigid life plan; superficially forward-thinking and casual, but ultimately too polished and therefore not really thoughtfully planned; no wonder your wife has already intervened to correct you.
Your impression is mistaken; maybe you shouldn’t rely on your feelings. Life has brought us so many unexpected events that repeatedly disrupted our plans. You could say things always turned out differently than expected. Still, I don’t want to live day-to-day; I want to take control of our life planning. I also don’t want to account for hypothetical situations that might or might not happen someday. Attentive readers will notice that both children are 14 years old, but what’s not known is that one of them, who would also be 14 today, is unfortunately no longer with us. The birth of the triplets was the reason we had to sell our apartment and buy a house. Given our financial situation at the time, it became a semi-detached house. We actually have enough space here for everyone, just spread across three floors plus a basement. If it were up to me, the house tyrant, we could stay here until the kids leave the house. Then my wish to build a bungalow would of course be easier to fulfill than it is now with children. But my wife, firstly, doesn’t want to climb so many stairs anymore and, secondly, no longer wants to constantly compromise on furnishings because of the 6-meter (20 feet) house width we have now. The wish for large rooms with plenty of space to move around comes from her.

My comment about the piled-up stones was not meant disrespectfully, but merely states a fact. They are just stones and will always remain stones. The experiences and memories stay with people forever, but the stones will not continue to tell the stories of what happened. Or do you have wall paintings in your house to pass on messages to future generations?

There was also a comment suggesting buying a used property because, even if building a new house would make economic sense, it wouldn’t be ecological, and so on. It should be noted here that these plots are sold on former brownfield sites and represent a gap closure within a purely residential area, which actually enhances the whole neighborhood.

BUT NONE OF THIS IS THE TOPIC HERE.
THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT THE FLOOR PLAN.
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ypg
2 Aug 2020 02:04
idasb79 schrieb:

BUT ALL OF THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC HERE.
THE FLOOR PLAN IS WHAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

... which you have obviously read enough about.
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pagoni2020
2 Aug 2020 08:35
idasb79 schrieb:

Your feeling is misleading you

... I admit I’m hopelessly sentimental after all, but who knows... -
idasb79 schrieb:

If it were up to me, the house tyrant

So it seems after all... - let’s put it this way, your previous thread didn’t exactly come across as if you couldn’t handle direct, honest opinions
idasb79 schrieb:

My comment about the stacked stones was not meant disparagingly, it just stated a fact.

I didn’t feel addressed myself, although some might have taken it that way in isolated cases
idasb79 schrieb:

no longer having to make compromises with the furnishing due to the 6-meter (20 feet) house width we have now

... which might tempt you to overcompensate in the opposite direction out of frustration; so be cautious.
idasb79 schrieb:

The experiences and memories will remain with people forever, but the stones won’t continue to tell the stories of what was lived.

... finally some well-founded info here... -
idasb79 schrieb:

Or do you have wall paintings in your house to leave messages for posterity?

... and not just that!
idasb79 schrieb:

BUT NONE OF THIS IS THE TOPIC HERE.
THE FLOOR PLAN IS WHAT’S UP FOR DISCUSSION.

In my humble opinion, “felt” minor details often significantly contribute to the success or failure of a building project; often more so than, for example, the last fraction of a percent in financing or the efficiency of a technical device.
Actually, your life is none of my business; I commented only on what caught my attention and could be considered with a self-critical mindset.
Since I apparently missed the mark once again, that’s ultimately a good thing and at the same time a big compliment to you.
So long—
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ypg
2 Aug 2020 09:46
ypg schrieb:

... which you have read quite a bit about.

If you read that the kitchen layout is not ergonomic, it needs to be changed, meaning a new design is required.
If the staircase is only 3.40 meters (11 feet) long, it is DEFINITELY too short – a new design must be created. All other personal opinions about minor details can be discussed in the new design; this one is basically unusable.
In a pinned post, the stair dimensions are given, specifying the MINIMUM measurements.
Then furnish the plans with your own furniture, not placeholders, as you were instructed. Either you will then see the shortcomings yourself, or we will see them. Placeholder furniture in software is very “adaptable.”
All of this can also be done using graph paper and pencil.

Edit: and if someone in the forum asks why you designed it this way (and not differently), that is the criticism. A good design explains itself, even if it is unconventional.
Giving a justification should only serve the purpose of reflecting on whether your approach is correct.