Hello everyone,
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
We have a plot of land (see site plan) and have started planning our dream house without an architect. Before we move forward in more detail, it would be great to receive opinions, ideas, and perspectives.
On the floor plan, you can see an electrical transformer to the east. It is quite tall and does not provide a pleasant view. Therefore, the utility room is planned here, separated from the house with access to the "breakfast terrace."
We are planning with the future in mind. This means we want all the essential living spaces on one level. Upstairs is for the children and grandchildren when they visit, as well as hobby rooms, an office, etc. The area above the living room is open. Downstairs, it is important for us to have separate areas. The kitchen/dining and living rooms should not be an open, connected space. We often have guests while others want to watch a movie in peace.
We welcome any extraordinary ideas. The house should be unique. But we also appreciate advice on realistic feasibility.
The house will be built as a timber frame house.
The building plan allows for few restrictions. The building envelope is shown on the drawing.
Thank you and best regards,
Andreas
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Alessandro28 Jul 2020 08:35@ypg: He is right in the middle of the planning process, so I don’t understand your criticism. Sure, the beginning was a bit confusing, but he is asking for suggestions and input. The size of the utility room should definitely be considered here. Nothing has been finalized yet...
Because this is exactly what architects often tend to undersize.
An architect is not always perfect either.
For many, it is enough to visit show homes to get a sense of room sizes, storage space, etc. That would be my first recommendation to you as well.
Because this is exactly what architects often tend to undersize.
An architect is not always perfect either.
For many, it is enough to visit show homes to get a sense of room sizes, storage space, etc. That would be my first recommendation to you as well.
Alessandro schrieb:
He is right in the middle of the planning, Exactly. He has been at it since mid-May and longer. But he asks questions that need to be considered beforehand. He still wants to build his own house, not a forum house. So, doing the work for him isn’t helpful. That just wastes time—for him, not for us.
This is the wrong approach, and I’m not the one to support him on the wrong track. It’s like giving money to an alcoholic so he can drown his shakes again.
Building a house is too expensive for that.
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neo-sciliar28 Jul 2020 08:54No, no. These are generalizations, ypg. I have
- looked at the room sizes in about 100 model homes, especially the utility room
- currently have a utility room of about 10 square meters (100 square feet), which I find too small
My conclusion: I plan for at least 15 square meters (160 square feet) for the utility room.
Now Alessandro and you come up with smaller utility rooms in the plan. I have repeatedly stated here that having plenty of storage space and a larger utility room is a requirement. At the same time, you tell me: I have no sense of space. So my conclusion from this is: I have no idea, and a smaller utility room is sufficient. And now I accept this criticism for myself—that I have no clue, no sense of space, I should rely on architects, etc.—and just because I question the size of the utility room, I’m seen as confused and accused of trying to push *my* plan through. No. Got it.
- looked at the room sizes in about 100 model homes, especially the utility room
- currently have a utility room of about 10 square meters (100 square feet), which I find too small
My conclusion: I plan for at least 15 square meters (160 square feet) for the utility room.
Now Alessandro and you come up with smaller utility rooms in the plan. I have repeatedly stated here that having plenty of storage space and a larger utility room is a requirement. At the same time, you tell me: I have no sense of space. So my conclusion from this is: I have no idea, and a smaller utility room is sufficient. And now I accept this criticism for myself—that I have no clue, no sense of space, I should rely on architects, etc.—and just because I question the size of the utility room, I’m seen as confused and accused of trying to push *my* plan through. No. Got it.
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Alessandro28 Jul 2020 09:03For hanging laundry, it would be more convenient to make the utility room a bit longer towards the bottom of the plan.
My utility room is just under 13 square meters (140 square feet). It also includes a shower! It is almost square, providing plenty of space for hanging laundry.
My utility room is just under 13 square meters (140 square feet). It also includes a shower! It is almost square, providing plenty of space for hanging laundry.
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Alessandro28 Jul 2020 09:08ypg schrieb:
Exactly. Since mid-May and earlier. But it raises questions that need to be considered beforehand.So what? You always notice new things, and new ideas come to mind that would be practical and useful. Especially the space requirements in the utility room can be very unclear for someone without experience!
And having a plan since mid-May is not a problem at all. A proper house needs proper planning. This can often take up to 1.5 years.
The utility room in the show homes is just large enough for the building services equipment and maybe a shelf, with the washer and dryer stacked.
We have a small utility room on the upper floor of about 7 or 8 sqm (75 or 86 sq ft). It contains a laundry basket, a sink with a small cabinet, washer and dryer. There is space for a drying rack, and that’s about it. An ironing board would be too tight, but it’s possible if necessary.
Building services equipment and tools are located on the ground floor.
We have a small utility room on the upper floor of about 7 or 8 sqm (75 or 86 sq ft). It contains a laundry basket, a sink with a small cabinet, washer and dryer. There is space for a drying rack, and that’s about it. An ironing board would be too tight, but it’s possible if necessary.
Building services equipment and tools are located on the ground floor.
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